Members boosh Posted November 23, 2005 Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 Okay ,..so we're working on a video which is going to be fully animated. My question: If we use a frame rate of 25/sec and a beat ,... let's say 120bpm. Where do you put the keyframes in animation,..in other words. which frames do exactly fit on the beat? Is there a calculation for that and would for example 100bpm be easier to animate? or 150? Angelo?? Maybe your Disney friends can help me out here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted November 23, 2005 Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 PAL has a frame rate of 25 per second (25 fps). A PAL frame is theoretically 40ms. For example: If you wanna hard sync video frames with musical /16 notes, then the tempo you can do that frame accurate is ??? (--->you really want to know it?) I wouldn't do it. Why? Because when the picture is in accurate sync with the music, some people have a epileptical seizure. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted November 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 Originally posted by Angelo Clematide PAL has a frame rate of 25 per second (25 fps). A PAL frame is theoretically 40ms. For example: If you wanna hard sync video frames with musical /16 notes, then the tempo you can do that frame accurate is ??? (--->you really want to know it?) I wouldn't do it. Why? Because when the picture is in accurate sync with the music, some people have a epileptical seizure. . So you suggest? We have this animation character and we want to make her dance so she has to be in sync... Funny,....the working title of the song is Spasms,...now wouldn't that cause a seizure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted November 23, 2005 Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 "So you suggest?" Cut the video just normal to the music, but may don't use a frame sync to music events over the whole video. The tv wouldn't play that. Frame accurate sync is dangerous, and can be validated by how many times the ambulace is called to seizures during transmissions on the tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members techristian Posted November 23, 2005 Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 Over here in North America ,20.97 and 30 fps are common. Rather than trying to fit the music to the pictures, I would rather fit the pictures to the music. I work with MediaStudio Pro. I can visually SEE the sound waves. The sharp transients of the 2 and 4 of the snare drum are easy to see in my mixes. Then I count the frames between them. Since I record with a click, usually they are solid and consistent. Other major audio events are also easy to SEE , such as cymbal crashes etc. Keep in mind though that I have been editing wave files for 10 years now. Then drag and drop the clips at beginning of each major "event" I did some interesting time synced editing with the "Plastic World" Notice how the animated Chromakey "balloons" open on the beat. Follow THIS link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted November 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 TechCris The way you do it is the way I do it also ,...I even did that ages ago when I still used Cells to draw and picture each frame on. I just wondered if there's a calculation that can be used to place keyframes. We're not fitting the music to the video by the way... The music is allready there well,....... we're in the middle of recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted November 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 Originally posted by techristian Over here in North America ,20.97 and 30 fps are common. THIS link Don't ya mean 29,97 ? Originally posted by techristian I did some interesting time synced editing with the "Plastic World" Notice how the animated Chromakey "balloons" open on the beat. Follow THIS link I've watched your videos many times The stuff reminds me of the Talkin Headz,.... very cool! The style we use is more like the Disney/Pixar stuff,... very realistic images mixed with live action and surrealizm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted November 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 23, 2005 We did a render test of a little animation this week. The animation is not tweaked and there are many faults in it but you get the general idea of what the video would look like. It's at : animation You need a divx codec installed to play it,.. dunno if you have that but you can get it at www.divx.com Deadline is set at 8 months,.... it takes ages to render and animate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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