How to make a remix, Craig or anyone please help!

I have been working on a song and the tempo is 160 bpm. Now I want to take the vocals from this particular song and put them on a new instrumentation that's a 175 bpm. The instrumentation of this song is 15 bpm faster. I have done this before and it worked because I time stretched the vocals, but it took forever because I had to experiment with time stretching the vocals. I used time stretch plug in, in SoundForge 8 with Sonar 4.4 producer edition. Is there an easier way to do this without experimenting? I also have Acid 5, but I hate having to learn a new platform when I'm in the middle of something.

Thanks for your help,

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you can email the vocals to me,... I timestretch them for ya

Acid is a really, really easy way to do what you want. You don't have to learn the whole program -- just import the file, stretch it, and export it back to whatever else you're using.

Quality won't be as good as offline pitch changes but with vocals you probably won't hear too much difference.

Okay I put the vocals/acapella in the project of the other beat/instrumental, aligned it and performed grove clip looping in Sonar, it's worked but some parts of the vocals started missing the timing. So I had to sliced the vocals into little sections and manually adjust them to fit the timing. Here's the deal, it's working but the music sounds too mechanical.

So I decide to just create new beats/instrumentals with the same tempo around the vocals. But I will sing the song again on the beat/instrumental I cannot get the vocals to fit with.

But my question is, how do they do remixes on professional records eg. Paul Okenfold. Do they stretch things, what's the process?

Thanks everyone.

Audioicon.

One thing about moving vocals around -- you have to know how it fits against the rhythm.

It's exceedingly rare when the start of a vocal bit (the attack of the wave, iow) starts on the money on a downbeat -- EVEN if the first note of the vocal is ostensibly on the downbeat (and not syncopated off as is often the case in most pop, blues, folk, rock, R&B, etc).

If you just line up the start of the vocal clip with the first beat, you'll likely be off.

Because -- even where the vocal starts directly on the one -- the rhythmic center of the wave is probably somewhat behind the begining of the singer's utterances... and not just intaking of breath, and so on.

If the vocal seats properly against the original you might somehow mark the precise location in the vocal clip of the one, move the clip to its new environment, seating that precise spot against the new downbeat and then performing your mods to it. (Of course, that begs the solution of taking the original context, assuming the vocal seats properly in it, and stretching or shrinking it to the new time and then popping the stretched vocals into the new project. But, anyhow.)

Hi there,

I think the easiest way to do this is to chop the vocals up in an audio editor, assign them to the keys of your midi controller in a soft sampler and play them back in time to the music live.

If you stretch, they still may be off by a few hundred milliseconds in relation to the music.

If you hit early or late, just nudge those midi notes forward or backward, or do more extensive editing in your audio editor.

good luck and have fun...

Okay here's what I decided to do, instead of messing around with the timing/alignment issues, I'll just sing the song again on the other beat. I did do a grove clip looping and it worked okay but the vocals just sound too mechanical.

So what I did was mute the drum tracks on the first mix, insert new Midi tracks, hit record and started playing a new drum with the same tempo but different beat style. It sound great! I did this a lot before but I just did not want to record vocals again but hey! I'm a perfectionist and I want it right.

I finished a remix last night just by playing new drum beats while I listen to the vocals. it's like playing in a band.

By the way the song is a pop raggae song and I'm working on a single for release in the Republic of Liberia where I'm from.

I hate to say this but it's really funny how I'm nobody in the music world here but all the DJ's in Liberia are waiting to spin my Shi--t!

So the single has to go!

But thanks everyone.

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