Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 10, 2007 Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 I want to get a few harmonicas in different keys, along with a holder so I can play guitar at the same time a la Neil Young or Bob Dylan. Any advice into which harps I should be looking at? I've owned Hohner Marine Band before... is this what I should get again? It'll be that folksy/bluesy sound, mostly. Advice would be appreciated. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 10, 2007 Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 A guy I've shared a couple bills with has a harp mic/neck rig that sounds really good... none of this whiney, naked reedy bleating... it sounds like a good player cupping a harp with his hands (to a certain extent, anyhow). The first time I heard it, from out of sight of the state, I really thought he had someone sitting in with him. When I got around the corner and saw a neck rig I was floored. I'll see if I can get the brand/model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 Blue, I'm less concerned with the mic/sound reinforcement aspect for the time being. Just really want to focus on which harps to buy, and which neck holder will work well with a basic 10-hole diatonic harp. I'll probably start with G and C and add on from there as needed. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 10, 2007 Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 Well... I'm NO kind of harp whiz (in fact not even barely competent) but the harmonica that worked out best for me was the Lee Oskar (from Tombo). But I suspect it's a highly personal choice. The Lee Oskar is much easier for me to bend notes on both draw and blow. (In fact, it may be the first harp I've been able to get blow-bends on halfway usably.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 I suspect you're right. It really comes down to Lee Oskar versus Hohner. It's the harp equivalent of Fender versus Gibson, or Martin versus Taylor. I'm sure both make some great instruments. One of the nice things about harps (unlike guitars): at least in the price range of $20 or so, it's okay to make a mistake and rectify it by just buying another one. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daklander Posted March 10, 2007 Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 The harp is going to be a personal preference for sure.The keys needed are going to depend on what keys you're going to be playing in and if you're going to play straight or cross harp.For straight harp you'll use a harp in the same key you're playing the guitar in.If you're playing cross harp take the key you're playing in and count up three. So, for the key of "A", count Key-A, one-B, two-C, three-D. You'll choose a "D" harp. "E" will get you an "A" harp. Or, you can count down four steps. I find it easier to count up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 If you're playing cross harp take the key you're playing in and count up three. So, for the key of "A", count Key-A, one-B, two-C, three-D. You'll choose a "D" harp. "E" will get you an "A" harp. Or, you can count down four steps. I find it easier to count up. Right, Dak... I'm familiar with that, as well as which harp to use for relative major/minor. That's one reason I'm leaning toward getting a full set that has all the natural keys (A, B, C, D, E, F, G). I'd like to be flexible. If I had to prioritize, I'd get a C and a G harp. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linwood Posted March 10, 2007 Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 Different kind of axe, but this is good advice....along with the diatonics you're gonna pick up, get yourself a 280/64. Cost you maybe $125, but you can thank me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackwatch Posted March 10, 2007 Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi, Don't mean to barge in here but as a harp player I'd highly recomend harps with plastic combs rather than wood. The wood will swell with moisture and the tone isn't that much different IMO. The Lee Oskars are great harps for the money as well as the Honer special 20's. I'm sure you can get many different opinions here. The Best of Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 10, 2007 Don't mean to barge in here but as a harp player I'd highly recomend harps with plastic combs rather than wood. The wood will swell with moisture and the tone isn't that much different IMO. The Lee Oskars are great harps for the money as well as the Honer special 20's. I'm sure you can get many different opinions here. The Best of Luck You didn't barge in at all, and thanks for the advice. And, I totally agree abut the plastic combs. I learned that the hard way. I ended up buying a package from Musician's Friend that includes seven Hohner Special 20s in all natural keys (A, B, C, D, E, F, G). It also includes a case and a belt. Excellent deal. And I got the Hohner neck holder as well. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 The only ones I ever used are Hohner Blues Harps,... I have them in every key available.I must have bought about a 100 up until now,.. My problem is I blow them to pieces the 2nd gig I do with them,..... The wooden things just break off inside. But they're still my favorites. I had a marineband once but switched back right away. But at the end it's the same as guitars,beer and women,.. you have a favorite brand and model and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 Right, Dak... I'm familiar with that, as well as which harp to use for relative major/minor. That's one reason I'm leaning toward getting a full set that has all the natural keys (A, B, C, D, E, F, G). I'd like to be flexible.If I had to prioritize, I'd get a C and a G harp.- Jeff Don't forget the Butterfield-style bandolero for all those harps. PS... apparently the pickup/kneck thing was actually two pieces... but the pickup is a Strnad: http://www.soundexchange2.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=523 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackpig Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 I don't play the harp much but I swear by the Lee Oskar ones. If you wear out a reed you can get replacement reed plates - much cheaper than buying a new harp. They have plastic combs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 Here's what I ended up getting: $149 at MF. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkZ Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 Nice, a harmonica cummerbund for black tie evenings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 What about "bandolero" sounds like FANNY PACK?!? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thankyou Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 I learn something here all the time, this time the plastic comb thing. Check out this guy. He uses some kind of adapter for a 57 running thru a tube amp, then also uses his vocal mic with cupped hands. When I first walked into the club, the band was on break. I thought someone was dinking around on guitar until I saw he was playing harp. He also has a hot guitar player in his band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kendrix Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 I own a few of the marine band ones. If Im careful about micing I can get a decent tone recorded from them.I must say getting proficient at blowing a harp is much much much harder than i ever expected it would be. I've owned a chromatic harp as well. (somehow it went "missing"). Thats a whole nother ballgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 I've owned a chromatic harp as well. (somehow it went "missing"). Thats a whole nother ballgame. Maybe you've left it on a parkbench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhat Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 A friend of mine is a real blues harp monster ... lee oscar is his harp of choice. rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 I've owned a chromatic harp as well. (somehow it went "missing"). Thats a whole nother ballgame. Yeah, I have one too. Unless I spontaneously grow a third arm, it's kinda hard to operate the button while I'm playing guitar. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted March 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 What about "bandolero" sounds like FANNY PACK?!? :D It was FREEEEEEEE, man! I'm not gonna be a fashionista about it. Of course, I'm not gonna actually wear it. A man has to draw the line somewhere. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 Here's what I ended up getting: $149 at MF. - Jeff that looks pretty cool dont wear that thing in public uh you might get shot im thinking airports that belt looks a bit suspect just to let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted March 11, 2007 Members Share Posted March 11, 2007 a bandolero?looks like your strapped with C4maybe crowd control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author MikeRivers Posted March 11, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 I want to get a few harmonicas in different keys, along with a holder so I can play guitar at the same time a la Neil Young or Bob Dylan.You're going to have to get yourself a better stage name. Neil Young and Bob Dylan have some character. Tony Joe White works. Bruce Springsteen is kind of on the border. Doc Watson doesn't count. But Jeff Klopmeyer? Nobody would believe that's really you. How about Weasel Meyersteen? How about a contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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