Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I may compose some oldies soon with a flair of the Beatles... "Fab Four" by East West http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp/en/east_west/fab_four/856502a84p226p48p76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I saw this. Angelo, you know that I consider the Beatles to be the best seven years of pop writing and recording that ever was or will be, whilst you view them as more a Liverpudlian Menudo, if I recall, but even I find this level of fetishism ridiculous. Pop music is already way more self-referential than it needs to be. The real lesson of the Beatles is write great tunes and be clever in the way you arrange and record them, not "Sound Exactly Like Us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 That rings a bell.... Oh yeah - Jurassic Park! That was the tagline of the guy who created the park. .....No expense was spared..... How friggin' silly. You don't get "Beatles music" because you recorded with a TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR GUITAR. Magpel's right: it's fetishism, and it's the opposite of creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Yeah, I've seen this before too, and I agree with you guys... totally frickin ridiculous. "Fetishism" is exactly the right word. I am a huge, and I mean HUGE Beatles fan, but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I am a huge, and I mean HUGE Beatles fan... Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Lee, come on now, you're not huge. You're quite well-proportioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brewgoodbeer Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I cannot image what East West was thinking. Do they think that the instruments made the music? Do they think that anyone would want to make music with the exact instruments? I don't think that Paul McCartney would even want in on this. Well maybe he could use the money to pay off the leech, but I doubt it. This is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linwood Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Call me nuts. I'm buyin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I think The Beatles are overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Call me nuts. I'm buyin'. I don't call it nuts! I bet there's a lot of beautiful, usable samples on it. The "baby you're a rich man" sound alone! It's something else, the idea of it, that's dubious. I bet the samples are killer. Let us know! I wonder if Macle is gonna buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dahkter Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Honestly, I've been looking for a sloshy Ringo type hat sample for a while, all of my high hat samples sound like "tss" instead of like "tssshhh".Anyone wanna email me a sloshy Ringoish hat, hit me at dahkter@gmail.comlovedahk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I cannot image what East West was thinking. Do they think that the instruments made the music? Probably not, but they don't mind taking money from people who do think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linwood Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Dahkter......Check out Simone's Bonzo Kit samples. If you've got K2, it might be just what you're lookin' for and It's priced right. http://www.chocolateaudio.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dahkter Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Looks amazing, thanks Linwood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steveg Posted May 4, 2007 Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 Instruments and sound sources are tools, there is nothing wrong with having more tools A sound library of Beatles instrument samples is kind of cool A sound library of Beatles instruments has nothing to do with writing great music I wouldn't mind own the library, but I guarantee whatever I compose with it won't sound anything like the Beatles!! BTW- I don't think their instruments sounded that great, it was the writing, singing and production to me that stands out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted May 4, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2007 I wouldn't mind own the library, but I guarantee whatever I compose with it won't sound anything like the Beatles!! Bingo! ---> I wait with composing some additional Beatles songs till the Jimi Hendrix sound library is released, or "The Rolling Stones" as sample player plugin for faking the "Pink Floyd," well actually I would prefer to fake Herman's Hermits "No Spaghetti Today" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted May 5, 2007 Members Share Posted May 5, 2007 It's kind of a cute idea. It was largely from Beatles' manuscripts that I learned how to read music and how to find chords on the piano, so I give the devil their due... I'm with Booshy in that I think the Beatles are probably a wee bit overrated... In th fullness of time, my own humble feeling will be that Bacharach/David will emerge the foremost pop song composers of the 1960's. Just MHO. [You can read my further discussion of this very subject on www.retrosellers.com in which I interview pop historian Rob Pingel]. Still it might be fun to play around with these samples. The least that the modern record-maker can do with these, I suppose, is to ALLUDE to the Beatles and to the 1960's with these sounds. Remember when Tears For Fears did their "Beatles album" SOWING THE SEEDS OF LOVE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted May 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2007 I think The Beatles are overrated. Nixon had to nixon, the Beatles have to beetle, the Stones are condemned in Tartarus to an eternity of rolling a boulder uphill then watching it roll back down again... To me it seems that composing as the Beatles did, consists of nothing more then taking a popular chord progression in use since several centuries, sing the words in exact the rhythm as you speak them, and derive the melody from the spoken sing sang. Then worldwide everybody can memorize the song instantly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted May 6, 2007 Members Share Posted May 6, 2007 I will certainly not purchase this particular product from EW. However, I own both EWQL Gold and EWQL RA, and I must say these 2 products are pretty good.I think the Fab Four product might be good for composers who don't play guitar and would like to get that retro sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted May 6, 2007 Members Share Posted May 6, 2007 To me it seems that composing as the Beatles did, consists of nothing more then taking a popular chord progression in use since several centuries, sing the words in exact the rhythm as you speak them, and derive the melody from the spoken sing sang. Then worldwide everybody can memorize the song instantly . good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted May 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2007 good one. as more I think about those billionaire blokes, I like that one too... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted June 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2007 ... totally frickin ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted June 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2007 Anyway... Let us know! They put up two demos made with this Fab Four virtual instruments. To me it sounds like Donald Duck playing Fisher Toys, and in the next second Flintheart Glomgold is hitting the record button to track Huey, Dewey, and Louie... it seems that I won't produce any boy group with a beatlesque reminiscence soon. The demos, but not worth clicking on this link to "Duckburg", or as we say in french "St. Canard":http://bestservice.de/detail.asp/de/plug_ins_vi_piano_keyboards/ql_fab_four/871318a62p167p42p21 . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members philbo Posted June 30, 2007 Members Share Posted June 30, 2007 I saw this. Angelo, you know that I consider the Beatles to be the best seven years of pop writing and recording that ever was or will be, whilst you view them as more a Liverpudlian Menudo, if I recall, but even I find this level of fetishism ridiculous. Pop music is already way more self-referential than it needs to be. The real lesson of the Beatles is write great tunes and be clever in the way you arrange and record them, not "Sound Exactly Like Us." Yeah.... I was relieved to hear they didn't dig up George & John, and attach servo drives to their tendons just to get authentic fretting with the original fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted June 30, 2007 Members Share Posted June 30, 2007 Nixon had to nixon, the Beatles have to beetle, the Stones are condemned in Tartarus to an eternity of rolling a boulder uphill then watching it roll back down again... To me it seems that composing as the Beatles did, consists of nothing more then taking a popular chord progression in use since several centuries, sing the words in exact the rhythm as you speak them, and derive the melody from the spoken sing sang. Then worldwide everybody can memorize the song instantly . Angelo, my dear friend, I would like to humbly request that, since you have the formula down, that you please compose and produce the next Beatle album that we have been so desirous of for the last 35 years. And don't worry if it's only as good as A Hard Day's Night, even if it's not as good as Rubber Soul. We'd be okay with that - really! nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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