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Sonar 7 V-Vocal Pitch-to-MIDI Question


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OK--so I tried to post this on the Cakewalk forum, but the forum server sneezed... I'll try again later.

 

I was using V-Vocal to try to turn some clarinet noodling/improv into sheet music... The pitch part seems to have worked fine. But V-Vocal compressed 17 measures of music into 9 measures... Not just in the MIDI conversion, but also in the V-Vocal edit window.

 

Anyone know what would cause this, and how to correct?

 

Thanks very much in advance!

 

Scott

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Actually, what it is is clarinet soloing over some backing tracks that I had also recorded. (If you want, the whole thing is at my soundclick page: http://www.soundclick.com/proteusc, and it's the second song), and I was trying to MIDI-fy the clarinet track. (To be clear, this is a single track from the project with only single-note monophonic data.)

 

So I am noodling along. I don't recall if I was running the metronome when doning the clarinet part, but I was running the metronome on the rhythm guitar and bass, and then I'm playing along to those backing tracks...

 

Scott

 

 

Did you play along to a metronome click when you recorded that clarinet part? Was your timing strict?

 

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Wow, a really neat piece. Okay, I'm assuming the clarinet part was:

 

 

on its own track

 

monophonic

 

other instruments could not be "heard" by V-VOCAL

 

the clarinet track was dry... no reverb at all, and that the reverb was added later.

 

The clarinet part was recorded to a steady time signature which you'd pre-setOnce the clarinet track was turned into a V-VOCAL clip, did it still sound and play the same (ie., with no glitches)?

 

How, exactly, did the music sound once V-VOCAL had done its pitch-to-MIDI thing?

 

P.S. I knew Trevor Rabin.... many years ago in South Africa (he's from Johannesburg). He had a band then called "Rabbit", IIRC.

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Rasputin,

 

Glad you liked it--needs drums, though. :)

 

Yes--clarinet is monophonic on its own track. Any other instruments that might have leaked on should have been suppressed by the noise gate I ran on the clip before putting it to V-Vocal.

 

However, the flanger could be a problem. Seems I went through a fit of "I need more disk space!" a few months ago, and threw out all sorts of source clips that I thought I didn't need any more... :( I can take another look around my HD, see if I can find the unaltered source clip...

 

Also, the piece is in 4 at about 103 BPM, but I don't have that encoded anywhere on the audio tracks.

 

Once in V-Vocal, there were a few glitches, but they seemed to have been limited to the really fast runs, which in itself, didn't surprise me, really. I doubt that V-Vocal is set up to identify woodwind glissandos... :)

 

And the best description for how the MIDI track sounds is, when put to a sine wave, is it sounds like R2-D2. :) Unless I crank the tempo back to about 60, and then it sounds like a close-enough approximation of the audio track. The pitch rendering is as close as I'd expect it, and I think the rhythms are in proportion, just twice as fast as they should be.

 

Re: Trevor Rabin--that's cool. I think I have two of his pre-90125 solo albums around here somewhere... The closest I've come, I think, is that I had a good friend in college who knew Skunk Baxter.

 

Scott

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