Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 But I need a new phone bad, and my ATT contract is finally renewable. Should I get a old 3G iPhone now for $99, or wait two weeks for the new model and pay twice as much? I'm also wondering if AT&T will offer any different calling plans now that the new models have been announced. And then there's the alternatives / competitors such as Blackberry and Palm Pre. Suggestions welcomed. PS I don't really "do" much texting... that's what the computer's for IMO. And FWIW, I'm already an AT&T customer, and the additional cost on an iPhone is going to be about $30 more than I'm currently paying - all I need beyond what I have now is the iPhone-mandatory data plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rabid Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I would wait two weeks. You are going to keep it two years. Two weeks and $100 is not a big difference considering the long term use. Your next question is 8GB, 16GB or 32GB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Hiller Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I have a Blackberry Curve and I love it. I wanted a real keypad instead of a touch pad. Will you email people from your phone? If you do, you might miss the keypad, but then some people LOVE the touch keypad. Best thing to do is probably go look at the iPhone and see how you like the way it feels. Biggest advantage of the iPhone is that there are more apps than any other smart phone at this point. That said, it's not the phone for everyone. I know you say that you won't text much with it, but I find myself answering emails on my phone all the time even though I'm not a huge fan of texting either. You'll use the keypad more than you think once you have the smartphone. One of the guys who teaches guitar in my shop has a Blackberry Curve and he has a program called "Word To Go", which is totally compatible with Microsoft Word...he does homework for his college classes on it. Small keypad, but it works well for him. My Samson/Zoom/Hartke/Walden and Jay Turser guitars rep has an iPhone and it works great with his Macbook, which is what he takes on the road with him to dealers. It's pretty amazing all you can do with the new smart phones. All of them are pretty capable little devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilMeow Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Wait two weeks. Get the new iPhone 3GS. The features help bring it in line with Sprint's Palm Pre. I work for sprint, but I say if you already are an ATT subscriber, then definitely get their flagship phone They're both very comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilMeow Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I have a Blackberry Curve and I love it. Best little device out there still, in my opinion. Any of the high end Blackberries are such great workhorses (except the Storm. I've never been so disappointed in a phone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I really don't think I'll do a lot of texting from it. I just got a MacBook, and I installed a new N wifi router, so my whole place is covered by wifi - house, studio and the entire lot. I'm "here" most of the time, so I don't think I'd even need / use unlimited data or internet. I could use the wifi most of the time instead of the 3G network. But I don't know if AT&T is going to offer a lower priced data plan or not. I could order the 8GB "old" 3G model today... or wait ten days for the new model and pay more for it. Either way, I'm also going to get the extended warranty for it, plus I'll need a good case - that's going to make the $99 phone more like $200, and the $199 phone more like $300... Decisions, decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 If you're a complete and total Apple slut (not that there's anything wrong with that) consider the iPhone. The interconnectivity among Apple products is a real plus. Otherwise, there are tons of options that are far better performers, at far lower cost. I don't know anybody with an iPhone that is 100% happy with it, unless they've never used another smartphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I have both Macs and PCs. I would primarily sync the iPhone with my MacBook... but if there are "tons of options that are far better performers, at far lower cost", I'm certainly open to learning about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I have a BBerry Curve on Verizon. Verizon has the best voice network, having used Sprint and Nextel formerly.. When my contract is done, I am going iPhone. The Blackberry is solid and the best phone I have had, and works well, but the apps and usability of the iPhone blow it away. There is a Blackberry app store, but it is not even close as far as useful things. ( I have an iPod touch, btw) I'd say, if you are a 'slut' for things that are useful and change the way you use the device in a positive manner, get an iPhone. If not, BlackBerry Curve series. The network near you is a biggie. Here, I think it is a toss up, but certain parts of the country, there are big diffs in speed/call drops, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I mostly really like my BB Curve. As a communications device, it's a solid choice. (I'm on T-Mobile -- and I get really good coverage here in SoCal -- but italso uses the non-3G Edge network, and, yes, the Edge network is pretty doggy, no question. That said, folks seem to be underimpressed by iPhones on ATT 3G, too. My buddy who's had them both seems underwhelmed by what he considers marginal improvement.) I noticed that the always rocky relationship between AT&T and Apple is nearing the visible end: Apple to AT&T: Drop Dead Here's an article that makes a forceful case for not upgrading: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/why-the-iphone-3g-s-may-be-a-suckers-bet-right-now/ I'm not convinced the iPhone is that great a phone (I really don't like talking to folks who have them, the sound is tweaky, starts off really loud a lot of times). But it is a brilliant little multi-purpose browsing device (at least on a decent WiFi hookup) and there are some pretty cool little applications for it that blow past a lot of what I've seen for the BB in terms of interface, ease of use, and just plain cuteness. I know a few people who have BB's for communication and iPod Touch (essentially an iPhone without the phone part) for browsing, fooling around, and, in once case, for running diagnostic and calculation software for his audio installation biz. I had been hoping that Android would have been more of a real option when I finally had to replace my trusty 5 year old dumb phone, but that was not to be. Still, I'll be likely to give it a real lookover down the road when I replace the BB. With re real keys -- I do not have big fingers but I have to tell you that the tiny keys on my Curve are NOT at all easy to type on accurately. It's a rough go. On my left hand (short nails) my fingers never seem to be able to find the correct key. On my right hand (guitar picker nails), I have to use the end of my fingernails to press the key and that's a little more accurate but slippery. That said, I've done a little typing on iPhones and the touch screen does not like something about me or my skin. It's easier to hit the right key with the much bigger virtual keyboard area on the much bigger screen -- but then when I do, it doesn't seem to register often. (I would hope that there's a sensitivity adjustment. FWIW, I also have problems using other folks' touch pads on their computers and have adjusted the sensitivity on my own up high.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bp Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Phil, wait on the new iPhone. There are some great music apps, some free and some $5 or less. Omni Tuner and iTick (metronome) see a bunch or use here. If you need a heavy duty phone, the Motorola Tundra is a great choice. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Hiller Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Plus the new version of the iPhone has a video cam, which I don't think the old version has. I'd definitely wait for the new model if I were getting an iPhone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 9, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 9, 2009 Phil, wait on the new iPhone. There are some great music apps, some free and some $5 or less. Omni Tuner and iTick (metronome) see a bunch or use here.If you need a heavy duty phone, the Motorola Tundra is a great choice. - That Tundra phone actually has testicles! What a manly, kick ass, Sgt. Rock of a cell phone! Tonka! I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bp Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I hear you can use the Tundra as a ban hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synonym Music Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I don't foresee a new data plan. AT&T just sent out new brochures on May 24th regarding their nation and family plans (minor changes). So.. It would be a pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Here's an article that makes a forceful case for not upgrading: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/why-the-iphone-3g-s-may-be-a-suckers-bet-right-now/ As a current AT&T customer, I did a little test run of an "upgrade" to iPhone from my current device, and the price for a 16GB 3GS iPhone was still $199. I'm not sure how other existing AT&T customers came up with the $299 figure for the same - maybe I got the $199 price because my current phone is a Palm Treo, not an iPhone. AT&T gets bashed a lot, but I haven't had any major issues. I do miss the rate I paid when I was on Sprint - $30/month for service plus $15/month for unlimited Internet - current AT&T plan is $40/mo. for service plus $50/mo. for PDA plan (required for Internet). Then again, a switch to iPhone 3GS would replace the PDA plan with the mandatory $30/mo. iPhone data plan for a savings of $20/mo - under a new 2yr. contract the new iPhone would pay for itself. I read about the iPhone's rumored move to Verizon in 2010 on other sites. I got on AT&T so I could text my relatives in Asia and Europe - it and T-Mobile were the only US GSM carriers I was aware of. I was never able to text my international relatives while I was on a CDMA network (Sprint/Nextel, Verizon). Verizon is expected to fire up its LTE network (which is backwards compatible with GSM) in 2010. I recently tried Billshrink (http://www.billshrink.com/), which T-Mobile is currently promoting, to do a bit of phone plan comparison shopping. It selected AT&T for me as my go-to carrier instead of T-Mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Blue, considering the state of my current phone, I can't wait for a year or more for Apple to possibly ally with other carriers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 As a current AT&T customer, I did a little test run of an "upgrade" to iPhone from my current device, and the price for a 16GB 3GS iPhone was still $199. I'm not sure how other existing AT&T customers came up with the $299 figure for the same - maybe I got the $199 price because my current phone is a Palm Treo, not an iPhone. AT&T gets bashed a lot, but I haven't had any major issues. I do miss the rate I paid when I was on Sprint - $30/month for service plus $15/month for unlimited Internet - current AT&T plan is $40/mo. for service plus $50/mo. for PDA plan (required for Internet). Then again, a switch to iPhone 3GS would replace the PDA plan with the mandatory $30/mo. iPhone data plan for a savings of $20/mo - under a new 2yr. contract the new iPhone would pay for itself.I read about the iPhone's rumored move to Verizon in 2010 on other sites. I got on AT&T so I could text my relatives in Asia and Europe - it and T-Mobile were the only US GSM carriers I was aware of. I was never able to text my international relatives while I was on a CDMA network (Sprint/Nextel, Verizon). Verizon is expected to fire up its LTE network (which is backwards compatible with GSM) in 2010. I recently tried Billshrink (http://www.billshrink.com/), which T-Mobile is currently promoting, to do a bit of phone plan comparison shopping. It selected AT&T for me as my go-to carrier instead of T-Mobile. That's pretty funny. FWIW, my BB is on T-Mobile. I get 1000 anytime, free wkends/eves, free LDX, 'unlimited' net access (but 'only' 500 sms -- which is about 490 more than I need most months), which comes to just under $65, about $71 with local tax, etc. And the customer service for the German owned company has been great. They really went out of their way to address some concerns I had and straighten out a billing problem caused by the sudden but unnoticed malfunction of my formerly trusty, five year old Samsung clamshell -- two voice mail calls totalling almost three hours between them that was going to be a nasty overage. (No rollover with my account.) In fact, when I called T-Mobile back to ask a question about my rebate on my new BB (which I got promptly), and mentioned that I wished I'd been able to take advantage of an earlier Amazon deal that would have made the phone free, she gave me an extra $40 'good customer' credit and added free nights and weekends to my package (which I apparently was qualified for but not set up for), all without increasing my monthly fee. Side note on Sprint: their abject and utter incompetence was responsible for one of the most awful customer service nightmares I have ever experienced. I cannot possibly say enough bad things about them. Though I've tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Blue, considering the state of my current phone, I can't wait for a year or more for Apple to possibly ally with other carriers... That's why I have a BB today instead of waiting for a next gen Android phone. I don't have a landline, proper, so when my clamshell dumb phone died (and died hard, see note on unterminated voice mail calls above), it was down to Skype Out and smoke signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Side note on Sprint: their abject and utter incompetence was responsible for one of the most awful customer service nightmares I have ever experienced. I cannot possibly say enough bad things about them. Though I've tried. I had Sprint before going to ATT two years ago. It was dreadful. OTOH, AT&T hasn't been without issues either... I suspect they all suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Given all of them suck, just wait two weeks and get the new iPhone 3G S. I have the original 3G and simply love it. I guess I've sold more iPhones than M-Audio stuff (ok, not really ) but you get the idea. Once you realize you can even control Pro Tools with it, you'll fall in love too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Once you realize you can even control Pro Tools with it, you'll fall in love too. Last I heard, that app only works with Macs - although they said on their site that they plan on offering PC support too. It's definitely something that would interest me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's definitely something that would interest me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sventvkg Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Phil it's the coolest phone in existance. Basically like a mini mac in your hand! Go play with one at the ATT store and you will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Phil it's the coolest phone in existance. Basically like a mini mac in your hand! Go play with one at the ATT store and you will buy it. I just went over to my friend's house and played with his first generation iPhone a bit, and it is indeed pretty cool. I'm pretty sold on it now; especially considering I can integrate it with my new MacBook for the calendar, scheduling, etc. The only remaining question now is whether to get the 3G 8GB version, or pay the hundred bucks extra for the new 3G S 16GB version and wait for a couple more weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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