Members rasputin1963 Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Let's talk about the use of subliminal messages embedded in audio. (N.B., I'm not referring to those "diabolic backwards messages", but rather forward messages that are blended in at certain frequencies just below the level of human hearing...) Does this subject interest you at all? Have you ever made such a recording? How did you do it, exactly? (frequencies used, etc.) Do you suppose these things work (in influencing the listener)? e.g. in self-help recordings, or in department store Muzak, etc. Supposedly they embed the command "I do not steal." in department store Muzak. Sometimes subliminals can be used in music, such as in Dirty Vegas' "Days Go By". If you'll listen, at first you'll hear what sounds like a percussive groove... But if you listen more closely you'll perceive that a digital sample of a human voice, highly modulated through vocoders and comb filter, is saying "Pick up the beat, pick up the beat, pick up the beat.." I recall how the author Wilson Brian Key in his textbook on subliminals, SUBLIMINAL SEDUCTION, said that Blue Swede had embedded a message in their infamous 1974 hit "Hooked on A Feeling". Bo-qweh7nbQ According to Key, embedded in that bizarre "HOOGA-CHAKA, HOOGA-HOOGA" intro is actually the phrase: Who got sucked off?Who got, who got Who got sucked off?Who got, who got Is this whole thing absurd? A tempest in a teapot? Or do you suppose there's "something to it"....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diablosrising Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I think this was just a trick to get me to listen to the intro to "Hooked on a Feeling" 20 times. You win, sir. You win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremolounge Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 How about that very well-known song with the barely recognizable chorus at the end: "Everybody's {censored}ed up, everybody's {censored}ed up..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 How about that very well-known song with the barely recognizable chorus at the end: "Everybody's {censored}ed up, everybody's {censored}ed up..." OMG! Is THAT what The Fab Four are saying there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 OMG! Is THAT what The Fab Four are saying there? According to Lennon, it was "oompa oompa - stick it up yer jumper" (jumpah in "proper English), and "everybody's got one"..."one" being whatever you read into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Frantag Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 Wilson Brian Key was a pervert who tried really hard to find anything that looked remotely like people having sex in a picture of a plate of clams. Eye of the beholder(and in some cases, ear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ani Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 Quite some time ago, there was a thread that focused on tones used by gambling casinos that triggered impulse. There are certain notes that affect the subconscious being that cause people to react differently than they normally would. It was really a pretty interesting thread and I know that I supplied multiple links that gave more specific details. I attempted searching for some of those links to articles, but with all of the new upgrades to Google; their search engine seems to filter out a LOT of the more incriminating articles relative to illegal or unfair business practice. I can't remember if that thread took place at the SSS here at Harmony Central, or if it was before we made the move from MusicPlayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 If there are any frequencies that make people buy more albums, I can assure you, they will be included on my next record. Who cares if every song starts with the same intro? After further investigation, every hit record has a subliminal message in its intro: "This is a hit, you love it." AI- Thats the ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TieDyedDevil Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 I recall hearing a radio interview with members of Blue Oyster Cult in the `70s. While discussing this subject (masked messages) they pointed out that one of their songs has a little burst of noise. If you slow that down by 32X, you'll hear someone reciting the lord's prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members algernon7 Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 We discussed these things in Psych in college. Typical findings are that subliminal messages under the range of human hearing are ineffectual. As far as the tones in slot machines, etc, that's more believable. You can actually hear them. I don't particularly believe that your brain can comprehend messages subliminally that don't even make it past the ears or eyes to begin with. It's like trying to effect someone subliminally with flashing lights, but putting the lights behind a blackout curtain. you can't see the lights, so your brain won't register the flashes. same for subliminal sound - it's below the range of human hearing, so will your brain even register things your ears won't pick up? i tell ya, my brain doesn't even register things my wife says, and she's well within human hearing range! but, maybe that's a different problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremolounge Posted August 10, 2009 Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 Anyone heard the story of how Goebbels set up these huge (like, 30"), hidden woofers at Nazi rallies, sending out pulsing sub-audio frequencies that would make the crowd feel edgy and aggressive, and thus receptive to Hitler's hate spew? I heard this years ago -- any truth to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2009 Anyone heard the story of how Goebbels set up these huge (like, 30"), hidden woofers at Nazi rallies, sending out pulsing sub-audio frequencies that would make the crowd feel edgy and aggressive, and thus receptive to Hitler's hate spew?I heard this years ago -- any truth to it? If Goebbels didn't do it--- and he may well have, I'd believe it--- you can bet that your modern-day Christian Fundamentalist messiahs employ the ELF technique in their modern megachurch rallies (along with some other time-honored tricks) cf. "The Battle For Your Mind" by Dick Sutphen Right now I'm watching a great Australian movie--- 1977's THE LAST WAVE by Peter Weir--- and I observe now that the didjeridoo almost certainly was used as a trance-generating ELF sonority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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