Members rasputin1963 Posted October 23, 2009 Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 I want to make a "cutting edge"-sounding rock record. That sounds to-the-moment hip. Suitable for immediate radio play. In the "Buzz Ballad" genre (quiet emo verse, loud distorted chorus). What tips/tricks/approaches should I then observe? I've got a couple of idees, can you add to the list? 1. Compress within an inch of its life 2. Raise loudness RMS to the max just before clipping 3. Auto-tune, bay-bay! The lead vox and the BG vox, layers of crispy harmonies that sound like the wind thru an aluminum Xmas tree 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark L Posted October 23, 2009 Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 Ask me to write it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted October 23, 2009 Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 The Cowsills updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 Say I've got my Cowsills.... Benny, Barry, Bippy, Betty, Boopy, and Booty. And Mom. Black glossy hair draped across forehead just-so. Gleaming Chiclets. Now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted October 23, 2009 Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 Loops. Lots of loops. Make it sound like no one human is playing any of the instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nerol1st Posted October 23, 2009 Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 I want to create a album that sounds like the old days: 1. All analog baby, no need to make life any easier.2. Record with 1 mic? Okay 4 mics!3. Use old vox and fender amps from the 60s, gotta get that thin sound going.4. Dump all the bass on the record, don't need it this is going straight to vinyl!5. Grab me a mop top, bell bottoms and drop some acid.6. Dance around the same 3 chord patterns, simplify the {censored} out of the song and make it a memorable hook.7. MUST be done at abbey road, MUST.8. Lots of grass in various forms, pot brownies are definitely welcome. Lot of food to satisfy munchies that will soon ensue.9. Get old neighbors to complain once said music is played via record player.10. Sell a beeelllion records, muahahaha. You can't tell me your parents didn't loath the {censored} out of the music you listened to back when you were a teen (BTW, I loath the music in questions but that's not the point of the sarcasm shown here). And here you are spouting off on a forum about how bad todays music is, in one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Say I've got my Cowsills.... Benny, Barry, Bippy, Betty, Boopy, and Booty. And Mom. Black glossy hair draped across forehead just-so. Gleaming Chiclets. Now what? You're making those names up. Except for Mom, maybe. Tell me you are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 1. Compress within an inch of its life2. Raise loudness RMS to the max just before clipping3. Auto-tune, bay-bay! The lead vox and the BG vox, layers of crispy harmonies that sound like the wind thru an aluminum Xmas tree4. Snap to grid5. Express your Pain6. Distressors on everything7.8.9.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 It's all about the bangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Refer to Audio Icon... who has been MIA for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 1. Compress within an inch of its life2. Raise loudness RMS to the max just before clipping3. Auto-tune, bay-bay! The lead vox and the BG vox, layers of crispy harmonies that sound like the wind thru an aluminum Xmas tree4. Snap to grid5. Express your Pain6. Distressors on everything7.8.9.10. 7. scooped-mids MESA for DA BR00TZ sound8. two-part whined/sung harmony on the choruses with a tuneless screamo interjection at the end of every line9. Get Howard Benson to produce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 You're making those names up. Except for Mom, maybe. Tell me you are... There might've been a Booty Cowsill. Not sure now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Loops. Lots of loops. Make it sound like no one human is playing any of the instruments. Ken, is that "no one human is playing" or "no-one human is playing" (either makes sense...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Ask me to write it I'm volunteering you to do it, Sergeant Recruitment Officer Who is the nekkid tit-tay dolly-bird in your photo, Young Lancs Lad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flatfinger Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 lots of sexual innuendo and misogeny in the lyrics. Keep the intervals of the melody from going to much of a distance overall . No leaps; lots of repeating.Rhythm in those choruses must be highly synchopated , polyrythmic with frying bacon sizzle laden cymbals .Overall, melody and harmony must play much lesser , subservient roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synonym Music Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 lots of sexual innuendo and misogeny in the lyrics. Keep the intervals of the melody from going to much of a distance overall . No leaps; lots of repeating.Rhythm in those choruses must be highly synchopated , polyrythmic with frying bacon sizzle laden cymbals .Overall, melody and harmony must play much lesser , subservient roles. Yeah.. Can't make it too memorable, can we? Just hammer on a couple notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 I've got a couple of idees, can you add to the list? 1. Compress within an inch of its life 2. Raise loudness RMS to the max just before clipping 3. Auto-tune, bay-bay! The lead vox and the BG vox, layers of crispy harmonies that sound like the wind thru an aluminum Xmas tree 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. In all seriousness, I`m de-cluttering my studio and listening to every tape, mostly DATs and cassettes from way back in the early to mid 90s and as I listen to my band, what I`m reminded of that really pulls me into the music is the lack of compression, the truly organic sound of our recordings and then I was thinking how different this sounds compared to todays music in 2009 so if you want to create something totally new and fresh, get back to recording the way we used to before compression and everything in your face. And lots of these recordings were made way before I had any clue as to what I was doing in the studio so there is so much imbalance between tracks that it really does add a very esoteric element to the tracks. I am glad that I am going through this process because I am not only reminded of what I did wrong, but what I did right and I am also stumbling across some really good song ideas that never took off so that is giving me more to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Ken, is that "no one human is playing" or "no-one human is playing" (either makes sense...) I meant the latter, but as you say, either way!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I want to make a "cutting edge" sounding rock record, so I... - Get a good studio with good gear - Study audio and recording techniques- Get a great producer / co-producer- Get a great band to record- Send the bounced mixdown to a great mastering house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Make sure you use lots of amp sims and software synths (making certain not to re-amp) so it sounds good and phony and flat, with no sense of depth and space. Set "Quantize Mode" for a high percentage. After all, you want it to sound perfect, don't you? Use BFD or some other kind of drums so that way you don't have to deal with the messy job of putting up lots of mics on a drummer who is gonna just bang away and not play in perfect time anyway. But if you do use a real drummer, make certain that you also use triggers or drum replacement. Snap to grid immediately. After all, you want it to sound perfect, don't you? Or did I say that already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 [YouTube]pehHOqx7JXg[/YouTube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thats absolutely {censored}ing hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 use a sample player and sampler. Sample farts. add distortion via amp sims to the farts then arrange using midi arranger software and autotune. Thats about as cutting edge as you can get considering the aforementioned methods. I've got a couple of idees, can you add to the list? 1. Compress within an inch of its life 2. Raise loudness RMS to the max just before clipping 3. Auto-tune, bay-bay! The lead vox and the BG vox, layers of crispy harmonies that sound like the wind thru an aluminum Xmas tree 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thats absolutely {censored}ing hilarious. Sad but True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thanks Lee. Genius. Now we have nothing to talk about. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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