Members otacon28 Posted October 15, 2004 Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 Just picked up another yamaha kit with the laquered finish pretty rough on them ,but all the wood was in good shape , so i chose to redo the finish on them . the new finish as shown in the pics is a hand rubbed oil finish ( about 6 seperate applications of it ) i was amazed when i saw how cool the wood looked underneath after removing the old laquered finish .. just figured i'd share a few pics of the outcome of the kit . sam(otacon28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted October 15, 2004 Author Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 another pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drummer_jay Posted October 15, 2004 Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 damn.. looks really good! What kind of process is involved in taking off the old crap? I'd like to re-do my Export Selects after I get a new kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted October 15, 2004 Author Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 Hey thanks , yeah i was really surprised on what they looked like when they were done ( worth every second of the work involved in my opinion . ) I'm not sure if it makes a difference on what kind of wood the outer layer of the shell is ( mine was birch ) but i used a reasonable grade of sanding paper ( i think it was 100 grit ) i didn't want to place any major pitting in the shell while sanding the laquered finish off by using to coarse of a sanding disc . plus this really helped to keep control of not sanding too much of the wood itself off from the outer layer ( i was concerned on this because the drums all sounded really solid before i started they just didn't look as good) .. also i didn't want to alter or interfere with any tonal quality that the shells allready had .. i have an orbital sander ( a dewalt one ) that takes a 5" disc ( hook & loop style ) and i just went to store and bought up some packages of discs for it .. started with a good bit of 100 grit ones . then went to 120 grit for smoothing it off , then to a 180 for finishing the sanding .. steel wooled before hand oiling , and in between each coat of hand rubbed oil finish .. it really helped the finish to have a nice warm sheen to it by steel wooling between coatings i think .. It was not the easiest task that i have done drum wise , but i would do it all over again after seeing what they turned out like though .. i found the key being to let the tools do the work and not to force the sander down onto the shell more merely gliding across it .. 5 shells and 2 wooden hoops turned out to be a most of the weekend project so make sure to allow some time so you wouldn't feel the need to rush the project along is the best advice i could give from my personal experience with it .. the hand rubbed oil finish really brought some extra warmth to the toms especially , and the 20" kick still has plenty bottom end punch to it .. sam(otacon28) Originally posted by drummer_jay damn.. looks really good! What kind of process is involved in taking off the old crap? I'd like to re-do my Export Selects after I get a new kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted October 15, 2004 Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 Great look. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members TrilleBaard Posted October 15, 2004 Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 Oh my lord that was one nice finish. Wish you could do that to my set. To bad I live in Norway =( Nice snare drum btw, what did you pay for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Steve Posted October 15, 2004 Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 Nice friggin job, man! I'd have been scared poopless to go at it with an orbital sander, though. I have a similar one (porter cable), and even with 100+ grit paper, I'd have been worried about accidentally digging too deep. Anyway, the results speak for themselves. Nice job. One question: I got the hand rubbed applications of oil part down, but did you put any kind of clearcoat or poly over them? I'm not a big woodworker or anything, but I always thougth that you were supposed to seal wood after you finish it to keep it from absorbing anything that might come in contact with it...kind of an extra layer of protection. Do you need to do that with these, or does the oil you used take care of that itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted October 15, 2004 Author Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 hey thanks man ' here's a better shot of the snare itself .. the snare was actually built or me from a guy in missouri who builds drums as a hobby. he did an awesome job on it and it sounds awesome .. i paid around $300.00 for it when i bought it and it was worth every penny . 9 Ply maple shell ( hand rubbed oil finish ) with Yamaha vintage series 19 Ply maple hoops sam(otacon28) probably going to have him build me a kit eventually since i love the work he did on the snare .. Originally posted by TrilleBaard Oh my lord that was one nice finish. Wish you could do that to my set. To bad I live in Norway =( Nice snare drum btw, what did you pay for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SonicDeathMonky Posted October 15, 2004 Members Share Posted October 15, 2004 Sam, Excellent looking job man! I'm very impressed! Do you happen to have any "Before" pictures to see what this kit looked like before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted October 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2004 Thanks alot man , my digital camera wasn't working at the time that i started working on re-doing them ( i just bought a new camera ) i think the guy i bought them off of may have some show pics from when he was gigging with them .. i'll see if he has any . the finish that was originally on them was orange/copper kinda color ( not a sunburst ) just kind of a cross between a copper ,and orange'ish color .. it was a shame they were scratched up because i really dug the color , but that was before i sanded them down too ... sam(otacon28) Originally posted by SonicDeathMonky Sam,Excellent looking job man! I'm very impressed!Do you happen to have any "Before" pictures to see what this kit looked like before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted October 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2004 hey thanks man , yeah i was a bit uncertain at first on whether it would work out good or not , but i figured if it didn't do real well than i could always just wrap them .. the trick to sanding them was to let the sander glide across the surface and not really put alot of pressure on it . if you don't force the sander into the wood and take your time it's amazing how well it actually works .. as for the rubbed oil process i used Teak oil. i'm not very familiar with alot of wood finishing products but a hardware store nearby has this awesome wood finish and laquer guy and he helped me through my refinishing uncertainness that i had . i did take a drum shell in and show him the condition of the finish before i even did anything ( first thing he said you're not thinking about using a wood stripper on these are you ? ) i told my plans on sanding them instead and he was all about that .. after i sanded them down i took a shell in and showed him what i had done and he said i was ready for the rubbed oil finish now .. the teak oil actually penetrates down into the wood and hardens in the wood not on the woods surface so it's a pretty sealed project .. i got this mainly for a studio kit so it won't really see the weather too much anyways .. for anyone who considers doing a hand rubbed oil finish on anything i would say go to talk with a person who has experience in woodworking and finishing these guys have alot of great tricks to make the job seem very simplistic .. i would also recommend using the Teak oil because it gives protection like polyurethane , but without the glossy finish.. i just wanted to give the wood a nice warm look to it , but not be to glassy looking .. sam(otacon28) Originally posted by Old Steve Nice friggin job, man! I'd have been scared poopless to go at it with an orbital sander, though. I have a similar one (porter cable), and even with 100+ grit paper, I'd have been worried about accidentally digging too deep.Anyway, the results speak for themselves. Nice job.One question: I got the hand rubbed applications of oil part down, but did you put any kind of clearcoat or poly over them? I'm not a big woodworker or anything, but I always thougth that you were supposed to seal wood after you finish it to keep it from absorbing anything that might come in contact with it...kind of an extra layer of protection. Do you need to do that with these, or does the oil you used take care of that itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members otacon28 Posted October 16, 2004 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2004 Just threw this page together on my website with a ton of pics to show some more detail of the woodgrain evident on the shells after refinishing them . Take a peek if you'd like at the following link : http://www.freewebs.com/otacon28/kitrefinishproject.htm rock on ' sam(otacon28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drummerboy_25 Posted October 16, 2004 Members Share Posted October 16, 2004 Hey nice finish you did a good job. I think you should post that on ghostnote.net. They are experts on their of drum building. If you were having trouble they would have helped you out immediately. Great JOb!!! Elliott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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