BOA (?)

Found this at PDP while looking for info on Paulius's boom stand.

http://www.pacificdrums.com/BOA/BOA.htm

There's a Bob Gatzen video that goes with it. I only grabbed a couple minutes of it. (dialup)...

First impression, bogus. Obviously they wouldn't go to market on that basis. Waddya think?

They've been around for a couple of years, but I haven't seen or met anyone that actually uses them. I'm tried them at GC, and didin't think that they were that great. If you really want to see a POS take a look at the new one from Gibralter. A buddy of mine tried it out at a store, and said that it responded extremely slow, even with the spring as tight as it would go.

That guy in the video is a WHORE...lol

Seen him a lot- he's strange and a little creepy too.

I'm no expert as I'm still learnin' Dbl techniques, it looks to me like it steals a little from Axis Long Board, SYMBOLIC can correct me if I'm wrong. I think he plays Axis. I'm ONLY talking about the one piece design for lack of a better term- no chain/strap. The one thing I did see that even if it did work, that metal on the pedal/spring, if that's what you call it, will fatigue and need to be replaced. Cost? More than most others I bet. Especially if friction is created by speed,. Should have used Ron Popeal, I'd probably have been more shocked and amazed. I'll stick w/ my IC's

That's Bob Gatzen.

He knows more about drums than everybody here combined.

He's an enthusiastic drum educator and a real asset to the drumming community.

looking around a single BOA is like $220. a bit much, but it looks like a pretty f'n sweet concept. I'd certainly try one.

If he was 30 years older, he'd be this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1nFQ0yZokY

, it looks to me like it steals a little from Axis Long Board, SYMBOLIC can correct me if I'm wrong. I think he plays Axis. I'm ONLY talking about the one piece design for lack of a better term- no chain/strap.

 

It is a direct drive pedal, like the Axis, but Axis didn't invent that. Speed kings where/are direct drive. The part that I think borrowed from Axis more than the direct drive, is the part where the upper link of the direct drive connects to the "cam" assembly is a very similar to the Axis VDL system. The Axis version has a lot more adjustability, and can be done by hand.

He may very well know more about drums then all of us combined here- but jenks I agree.

I'm friggin' old and have NO memory. My first two kits were Ludwigs w/ Speedkings on both. I had completely forgotten the driect drive on them. Thanks for the memory SYMBOLIC. I see a lot of talk on other forums, and see pictures of S.K.'s, but frankly didn't pay much attention- only thought about how I wished I still had the Pearl Onyx set. Later

Ok one thing about the pedal itself. The footboard is the spring. Doesn't appear to work very well either.

have you tried it? just curious. I'd still like to sit down with one for a while.

Yeah me too. It just seems to me that a foot board no matter how flexible and resilient would lack proper leverage to function as a return spring. The opening doodles of the video appear to bear this out. The pedals have what - 2 inches of travel? And Mr. Gatzen seems unable to do a steady job with 'em.

seems to me it wouldn't be too tall an order to some up with a material with the proper tensile strength to do what they're doing.

Well I'm guessing it works like a diving board - perhaps too slowly for drumming.

If you used a steel leaf it'd be too stiff. Anbyody stocking this thing?

Any time you bend a material, it gets fatigue, eventually developing microfissures which in turn become bigger cracks.

So, I guess DW's problem of breaking footboards isn't going to go away any time soon! (rib)

I'm happy with my Flexi...

In the video, as creepy as the guy is - it was all funny until he said the drummers that like to explore.

Explore what, Herbert?

oh come on. thousands of manufactured components in thousands of objects we use daily are designed to bend.

torsion rods, cantilevers, springs, your own damn mylar drumheads are designed to bend. The spring on your regular fussmachine bends.

airplane wings. bridges. buildings. all this {censored} bends and you still use them.

don't try and tell me a footboard can't bend and function for a reasonable amount of time.

Who said anything about being reasonable!

lol

Seriously though, I already don't like the pedal. It's too liberal-leftish!

(that oughta get this thread rolling!)

that's just the kind of nebulous reason that is difficult to prove and impossible to refute.

nicely done, sir.

All in good humor, of course.

To be honest, I probably won't like the pedal. Add to that, I am happy with what I have, so I have no reason to be interested.

It is interesting in a purely "that's different" kind of way, to say the least.

I've actually played them and it was suprisingly good.

In fact, a lot of HIGH DOLLAR pedal makers are trying their hands at that kind of design. (AXIS, TRICK etc).

For a while, the Pacific BOA was on sale for $99. I should have picked it up then. I figure, if I wait a few months it will drop their again.

if I saw one for $99 I'd prolly pick it up.