Members junkdrum Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Does any one know anything about this group? I saw them play some time in the early 70's in Seattle. The Buddy Miles Express was also on the bill. They were really tight and Ginger was very restrained but powerful... even stately. The one tune that I can remember from the show was an Africanized version of the riff from "Had to Cry Today." There's a clip of them jamming on youtube, but aside from that I can find very little documentation of their existence. They were definately way before their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 Nope. But I'll have to see what I can find out of curiosity. When I was a kid, right after we found fire, I used to jam to a Buddy Miles Band LP that had "Changes" and "Down by the River" on it. Cool album. I learned a lot from that album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted October 24, 2007 Members Share Posted October 24, 2007 It was a group formed after Blind Faith...Baker got into the African rythm thing and actually moved to Nigeria I think. At the latest Cream reunion, he demonstrated a lot of those African rythms in his Toad solo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickg Posted October 25, 2007 Members Share Posted October 25, 2007 i don't remember Salt. it must have been a short lived thing before he started his Airforce band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junkdrum Posted October 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 25, 2007 No, actually Salt was after Airforce. It was an all African band, I believe from Nigeria. They had a couple of female singers, a guy playing Kora, along with guitar and bass and percussion (if my memory serves). They definately toured in the US, but a google search only yields a single clip (which is awesome by the way) on youtube. I'm wondering how a band as that cool could not be remembered by more people. They were definately the forerunner to the kind of thing people like Bill Laswell much later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted October 25, 2007 Members Share Posted October 25, 2007 I hate to say this but think of what are country was like in the late 60's and what we were going through as a culture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junkdrum Posted October 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 25, 2007 Although I shun nostalgia, I look back on the '60 with fondness. (I was born in '54) From what I've seen, this culture has been on a steady decline since then. Too much media, too many things to buy, too little free time, astronomical Housing costs and the fear of dying with no health insurance have made risk-taking a thing of the past for many, myself included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted October 25, 2007 Members Share Posted October 25, 2007 I agree...I was born in 56. Things have changed dramatically and I worry about the way my granddaughters will be growing up all the time. It's nastier out there today, and respect is slowly becoming a lost idealism...My bike was just vandalized this Monday for no apparent reason. That's what today is coming to. Sory for being OT...back to Ginger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickg Posted October 26, 2007 Members Share Posted October 26, 2007 born in '54 here too. i remember listening to my parents talk about the "good ol' days" and do the same with my son as well (he's 21). things sure have changed since we were kids for sure. unfortunately so much of it ISN'T for the better!! but we sure had some good music growing up. i'm thankful that my son appreciates so much music from the past (as do i) and isn't a hip-hop/rap loving kid. gotta love a kid who's into the beatles, doors, who, king crimson and is a fan of carmine appice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted October 26, 2007 Members Share Posted October 26, 2007 King Crimson!!! In the Court of the Crimson King...great music...Maybe we are the 21st Century Schizoid Man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted October 26, 2007 Members Share Posted October 26, 2007 Michael Giles! Never heard him on anything else... Baker and Salt? The right touch of salt is crucial to bringing out the richness in baked goodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Craise Posted October 26, 2007 Members Share Posted October 26, 2007 I worked at a used CD/Book/LP store for over 10 years...and have seen and heard almost everything under the sun.. But I've never even heard of salt... Very interesting! But many times you hear of bands like this that never got a LP made...or just did a few shows...Prolly best to look for bootlegs? I love those Ginger Baker Trio CDs that he made in the 90's...also his playing on that Masters of Reality CD... Love to hear some Salt! I'll have to check it on you tube! thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junkdrum Posted October 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2007 I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging, but I actually saw the original King Crimson play at the Marquee Club in '69. I was on vacation with my sister visiting some relatives. The whole time I was there I was bugging my older second cousin to take us out to a concert or show. I was hoping to see Blind Faith, Savoy Brown, or some band like that. One day he told me about this hot new band that was playing. That night I had my first Guinness and my first taste of prog. For an impressionable 15-year-old it was an unforgettable experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junkdrum Posted October 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2007 Remember the old joke, "Why is Ginger Baker like a cup of coffee? Answer - They both suck without cream"? Totally untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockbeat Posted October 27, 2007 Members Share Posted October 27, 2007 Remember the old joke, "Why is Ginger Baker like a cup of coffee? Answer - They both suck without cream"? Totally untrue. Exactly how did Ginger Baker become the butt of so many jokes? Awhile back I even ran across a website dedicated to nothing but Ginger Baker jokes. There must have been at least 100 of 'em. I mean, I'm no Ginger Baker disciple or anything, but I certainly don't think he deserves all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockbeat Posted October 27, 2007 Members Share Posted October 27, 2007 Remember the old joke, "Why is Ginger Baker like a cup of coffee? Answer - They both suck without cream"? Totally untrue. Oh, yeah, and that is totally untrue, coffee really isn't that bad without cream. J/K. Sorry, coudn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZoomRmc Posted September 14, 2011 Members Share Posted September 14, 2011 Remember the old joke, "Why is Ginger Baker like a cup of coffee? Answer - They both suck without cream"? Totally untrue. In fact this always was a joke about Clapton, not Ginger. I've just found out they released a cd "Ginger Baker and Salt: Live in Munich, Germany 1972" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickg Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 actually i forgot all about Baker playing in Salt, though i do remember his Air Force time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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