Members Growl n' Chime Posted November 10, 2007 Members Share Posted November 10, 2007 I'll hold my question till i see what reaction this gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danrothmusic Posted November 10, 2007 Members Share Posted November 10, 2007 there are some people who will help you out, and other's (like myself) who won't go out of our ways to kill you, and we won't hate you, but our advice will be to get a real drummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumstix61 Posted November 10, 2007 Members Share Posted November 10, 2007 there are some people who will help you out, and other's (like myself) who won't go out of our ways to kill you, and we won't hate you, but our advice will be to get a real drummer get a real drummer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted November 10, 2007 Members Share Posted November 10, 2007 get a real drummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SirPsychoBuddha Posted November 10, 2007 Members Share Posted November 10, 2007 get a real drummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sharnrock Posted November 10, 2007 Members Share Posted November 10, 2007 I'd go to the techno forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 I have done both...used traditional tubs and sampled when I was writing...I'd help if I can...it's beena while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Growl n' Chime Posted November 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 there are some people who will help you out, and other's (like myself) who won't go out of our ways to kill you, and we won't hate you, but our advice will be to get a real drummer Believe me, i'd love to learn to play and record real drums. But living in a tiny apartment in a complex with strict noise enforcement forces me to compromise my one-man band options. So using drum samples is my only real option right now. My question is what would you guys consider the most realistic sounding and/or tweakable samples out there? I'm looking to make them sound like old Goo Goo Dolls (and newer, to a lesser extent), Rage Against The Machine/Audioslave, and Smashing Pumpkins ( though i know getting them to sound like Jimmy Chamberlin would be pretty much impossible) I guess i'm looking for some hard hitting sounds that fall short of heavy metal, like power pop/hard rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theFoot Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 i don't understand? if you like a sound (and you've listed a few you like), sample it...right. the only samples i've ever worked with were myself. the hits were recorded to tape, then made into files from the tape!Oh, wait...that was 10 years ago. never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pljones Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 ns_kit7 is the most extensively sampled drum kit ever. Unfortunately, it's no longer in production, so you've missed out on a classic. Loaded into Kontakt2 and played with an expressive percussion controller, it'll fool most of the people most of the time. Apparently Steven Slate's samples are well thought of. Then there's the staples of BFD and DFHS. Version 2 of both of those apparently improve live performance features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 I used to trigger Yamaha RX5 and Roland U20 samples on stage off a set of Simmons pads. They sounded greta in the mix and I was able to get a fairly good blend to the fronts. I had drum monitors and headphones for all of the kit so it did get a little rambunctious at times. I'd have a drum machine banging in my ears and me playing along with them with the band. Sometimes it got a little LOUD!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlatinumSamples Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Believe me, i'd love to learn to play and record real drums. But living in a tiny apartment in a complex with strict noise enforcement forces me to compromise my one-man band options. So using drum samples is my only real option right now. My question is what would you guys consider the most realistic sounding and/or tweakable samples out there? I'm looking to make them sound like old Goo Goo Dolls (and newer, to a lesser extent), Rage Against The Machine/Audioslave, and Smashing Pumpkins ( though i know getting them to sound like Jimmy Chamberlin would be pretty much impossible) I guess i'm looking for some hard hitting sounds that fall short of heavy metal, like power pop/hard rock. Some of those albums were tracked in the same rooms we used for our samples. https://www.platinumsamples.com/JoeBarresi.html Rail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theDan Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Asking drummers about drum samples is like asking your guitarist how to replace him."Hey, you're good but it's kinda sloppy, is there a way we could use a program to play your parts, and you can like, find another band??" lol all in good fun though, yeah drum samples are good to use at times (writing as someone said above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pljones Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Not really. If you need a sample set to trigger when playing your eDrums, how is that replacing the drummer -- when you are the drummer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super 8 Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Asking drummers about drum samples is like asking your guitarist how to replace him. Well, I guess you could for a union and go picket the guy's apartment. I think some of the samples mentioned are on the money. Or you could get some pre-recorded drum loops in the style you're looking for, which might work better since with samples, you still have to have a way of programing them and making the performance sound like a drummer played it. Plus with the loops, you are still supporting the drummer who originally recorded them. That ought to get some of the guys in this forum off your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mparsons Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I use EZdrummer for my stuff and it sounds great. I used to use all Andy Sneap samples with Acoustica Beatcraft, and got really good sound with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bang Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Some people have the luxury of being able to set up some world class mics on a nice kit in a great room with a powerful and skilled drummer. Its unfortunate but Growl, it doesn't seem like you have that luxury. So do you really have a choice? I'm trying to do something new with drum software and from how you describe your needs, it may be just the ticket. If you are curious about what that is you can check out www.stevenslatedrums.com/twoinfo.html However, there are a lot of other great drum softwares currently out, such as the ones from Platinum samples, DFH, EZ Drummer, Larry Seyers, and Addictive Drums and I would try to inspect them all to see which is best for your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theDan Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Not really. If you need a sample set to trigger when playing your eDrums, how is that replacing the drummer -- when you are the drummer? I was referring to when you use drum samples to write electronic drum parts, that trigger/eDrum thing never came to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Why is this issue so awkward and controversial. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a drummer/percussionist, you learn the whole craft. You don't say I'm not gonna learn or use a crotale just cause it doesn't fit in a normal drum kit setup. You want to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wellhungarian Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Why is this issue so awkward and controversial. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a drummer/percussionist, you learn the whole craft. You don't say I'm not gonna learn or use a crotale just cause it doesn't fit in a normal drum kit setup. You want to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metal_terrorist Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Asking drummers about drum samples is like asking your guitarist how to replace him."Hey, you're good but it's kinda sloppy, is there a way we could use a program to play your parts, and you can like, find another band??"lol all in good fun though, yeah drum samples are good to use at times (writing as someone said above) LOLAs Larry the Cable Guy says 'I don't care who you are, that's funny' I use EZDrummer too and I love it. If you have the beans ( aka $$$ ) get the PlatinumSamples or the Steven Slate stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walt Disney Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Drum samples are great in conjunction with an home trainer (E-drum) and to paint drums with a computer mouse. I use them sometimes. It's realy just a FRED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Drum samples are great in conjunction with an home trainer (E-drum) and to paint drums with a computer mouse. I use them sometimes. It's realy just a FRED. Yeah...Thanks to Marko, I get that! Yea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walt Disney Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 I read it there too. Totally on cue with cyber talk now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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