Rock Band Helping to Learn Real Drums?

http://kotaku.com/374231/video-proof-that-rock-band-learns-you-some-drummin

(Note: The guy in the video is a huge tool)

Apparently Kevin Periera from Attack of the Show plays drums on Rock Band a lot and was challenged by Coheed and Cambria to show his transfer of skills onto a real drum kit. Of course, the whole thing seems/is staged and he is quite impressive how good he is considering he's supposedly only played Rock Band.

However, this is all a load of bull, and he has been playing drums for quite a while according to commenters. Can you believe this? Liars on television!

edit: I didn't believe this video for a second. No way in hell someone would be able to convert a song like that to a real kit by playing it on Rock Band. Or at least, I think..

First of all, I don't think Rock Band can truley prepare a drummer (see another thread on this)

Other than that, I still love Attack of The Show

First of all, I don't think Rock Band can truley prepare a drummer (see another thread on this) Other than that, I still love Attack of The Show

Yeah that was kinda my point. That the video was deceptive and wrong.

Also, I can't stand AotS since the previous girl co-host left :x

Entertaining but BS. Rock band may give you an interest in drumming, and a start in using your limbs to hit drums, but it really doesn't teach the craft, and art of drumming. If the day comes that it does, that will be a sad day indeed, and I will retire as a musician if they bastardize it like that..

Playing Rock Band is not going to hurt your drumming. At the very least it is a good dexterity exercise. Of course, there are no paradiddles in rockband

Can you yungins finish your homework before you post this stuff?!

You got way too much time on your hands.:poke:

And since you do,here is something you should watch.

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/gavinharrisonfutile.html

Do your homework and stay in school. Practice,practice,practice.

Makes perfect.

I would argue that Rock Band does teach a very basic rock beat. If you took someone that had never been behind a kit and had them play the tutorial, I would bet that they would come away playing the basic rock beat quite quickly, and then could apply that to a real kit. Take a look at the first half of the tutorial for Rock Band drums:

Intermediate Tutorial on youtube

Can you yungins finish your homework before you post this stuff?! You got way too much time on your hands.:poke: And since you do,here is something you should watch. http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/gavinharrisonfutile.html Do your homework and stay in school. Practice,practice,practice. Makes perfect.

crap that guys good

:eek:

:eek:

Yeah - not too bad at all - so smooth and effortless...

Painfully reminds me what a hacker I am...

those games do teach great timing and the ability to break up the song more. Of course they don't teach dynamics but I think you could definitely learn some aspects like basic independence.

I don't understand. What would be wrong if Rockband taught you the art of drumming? Why would that make you "retire"?

I would think it could be potentially a great aid. Okay, you won't learn dynamics from it, but it could teach you independent coordination, help build an internal sense of time, and get you started on some common beats. Maybe even get you started on a few rudiments. From there you could take it to a real kit and develop your technique.

I see the Rockband drums potentially far more useful than the Guitar Hero buttons, which are basically useless.

I guess I don't see how this cheapens or degrades the artform. Do people find stuff like this threatening?

buuuuuuuuull{censored}~~~

http://kotaku.com/374231/video-proof-that-rock-band-learns-you-some-drummin (Note: The guy in the video is a huge tool) Apparently Kevin Periera from Attack of the Show plays drums on Rock Band a lot and was challenged by Coheed and Cambria to show his transfer of skills onto a real drum kit. Of course, the whole thing seems/is staged and he is quite impressive how good he is considering he's supposedly only played Rock Band. However, this is all a load of bull, and he has been playing drums for quite a while according to commenters. Can you believe this? Liars on television! edit: I didn't believe this video for a second. No way in hell someone would be able to convert a song like that to a real kit by playing it on Rock Band. Or at least, I think..

Staged? YES, Notice as the host is "playing" you only see the real drummer's face?? (as in they edited the good drums audio to play while you saw the real drummer act as if he was listening to the host play, The drummer gave the host enough cues to look like he was really playing from the wide shots and then on the closer shots, you never see the sticks meet the heads)

Can Rockband be a great introduction to those who have never sat behind a kit ever? Yeah you bet! But is it close to actually playing a real kit?? Naaaaah! Just like all the driving and race games give you a "feel" for something what it's like, it's nothing like being in the driver's seat, changing gears, feeling the heat and being in a REAL race car. Rockband is like that to drumming.

My stepson has this game, I have played it. I have played a real set for over twenty years! On the game, I had to go offbeat to be sure to hit the "snare" a little before it came up on screen or it wouldn't register. Also the game has NO cymbals, No hihat, You can't adjust the angle of each drum and there's no sensitivity.

Super 8: I think Box meant more to say if this passes for real drumm playing, then it's a really sad day for real drummers, because it would be close to saying if you can play a NASCAR game, then you can drive in a race.

There was a game named SIMON that came out during the 70's, you had to hit each color in the exact same pattern as the game had just shown to you within a cetain time, You learned to hit the correct COLOR and PATTERN moreso than learn musical timing, dynamics, rythem, etc. Rockbeat is a more grander game of Simon IMO.

Also this band has a song on "Rockband" and has another you can download, I would imagine they have a contract with the maker that for each unit sold they get "X" amount of dollars for the copyright for their song. So if I was the drummer in said band, I too would welcome the ideal of everbody buying the game because as you've just seen this TV host do, you play the game....you play like a real drummer in a real ROCKBAND!!

And then we do the same thing we do every week Pinkie, Devise a plan that will allow us to Take Over the WORLD!! should be even easier now that people believe that video games make you a better drummer!! LOL LOL

I've actually performed my own little experiment with this theory.

I have a buddy who can beat pretty much every song, with every instrument on expert with at least 90%. I had him sit down on my real kit and play some of the songs in Rock Band with the other guys in my band... it didn't go well. Not only was he completely lost with a hihat and other cymbals but his time was attrocious. He also couldn't get his head around the drums being on different levels as he was so used to 4 pads in a row. He played for a full 2 hours and obviously improved, but he had no idea how to control the drums and cymbals so he just repeatedly bashed on them.

Rock Band taught him some basic limb independance and allowed him to understand the "idea" of drums but it failed him in pretty much all other ways. His timing was terrible because he actually had to LISTEN to the music instead of taking visual prompts. When he got even a little bit lost he had to stop playing and wait for a part he remembered from the game. There's no question that RockBand is fun and can teach the basics... but it has little to no benefit to someone who has no previous musical background. Infact, in my Buddy's case RockBand actually caused him to develop bad habits before he'd even played a real drum kit.

He has since shut up about how Rock Band teaches people how to drums in real life.

That guy is an actual drummer. I've seen him play in other videos before rock band was out.

Can you yungins finish your homework before you post this stuff?! You got way too much time on your hands.:poke: And since you do,here is something you should watch. http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/gavinharrisonfutile.html Do your homework and stay in school. Practice,practice,practice. Makes perfect.

What? No, really, WHAT?!?

How have I never heard of this guy before. That's really bloody good.

I call bull{censored}.

There is a lot of physical conidtion and balance that goes into drumming too. Not to mention learning how to hit the drums and cymbals right to get a good sound.

PLUS, in Rock Band you are following a recorded track and not leading the band. It's totally different.

You can tell my the way he plays that he's sat behind a real kit before.

rock band wont help at all, it just makes all the nerds at my schools think theyre good at drumming.

nerd 1-omfg, i liek beat expert drums on rock band.

me-sweet.

nerd1-yeah, think i'd be good at real drums?

me-no.