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What makes cymbals vintage?


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I have been looking for new Hat's and I keep seeing the Hat's I have and the ad's say vintage, they have no lettering, and they are pretty beat up. My hats on the other hand are in great shape no fading of the lettering or keyholes or cracks. Should I hop on this vintage bandwagan. I would love to have some more 14" A Custom mastersound hat's. I guess if I hold off a year or so the ad's will go from vintage to rare, and then I can trade them on a new kit. Ha! I like the New-Beats but they are just to quiet when I play with Hot-Rods, and I seem to be playing alot with them lately. Anyone want to trade? You end up with some Rare Hat's! Any suggestions on other good sounding hat's that are not so quiet. :poke:

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Forgive my drunken state it sounded better in my head. I am just trying to figure out how cymbals made in late 90's can be Vintage. I am on a quest to find new Hat's that actually make a sound when I hit them with hot-rods. They have been great up until this point, just want something new.

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Forgive my drunken state it sounded better in my head. I am just trying to figure out how cymbals made in late 90's can be Vintage. I am on a quest to find new Hat's that actually make a sound when I hit them with hot-rods. They have been great up until this point, just want something new.

 

I would not consider cymbals made in the 90's to be vintage. I'd just call them old...:rolleyes: Personally, vintage (here goes the age thing again) to me would be from the 70's and back...:thu:

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That was my point, so why are all these people on craigslist and e-bay saying they are vintage. Hell if it is a selling point, I will say mine are Vintage too. I sold a couple of 60's Paiste's about 6 months ago those were Vintage.

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When I think vintage, it's usually 80's or older. And that really depends on the brand. 80's Sabians are vintage, because they didn't hit the market until about '84, was it? Their manufacturing techniques changed a bit into the 90's, so those old HH pies are definitely different from anything else you'd get from them. Same goes for Zildjian EAK's.

 

New Beats came out in the late 60's I believe. Back then they were on the lighter side and are most desirable today. They fattened up a bit in the 70's and by the 80's were downright heavy.

 

50's Zildjians can be found with lots of hand hammering in them. Even some early 60's pies. This is true for the Canadian K's too.

 

60's and early 70's Paiste 602's are vaery desirable, as are the original Giant Beats.

 

When it comes to a company like Istanbul, pies made from the 80's to the split in '97 would be considered vintage. In '97, Agop died and the families split the business up, becoming Istanbul Agop and Istanbul Mehmet. Pre-split Istanbuls are highly desirable.

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Same reason everybody on those sites calls everything "rare". Half the stuff marked rare on ebay is only rare because it hasn't been cooked past 150 degrees.


I say when determining "vintage," go with the rules people use for cars. 25 years or more is probably BARE MINIMUM if you ask me. I tend to think of 1960's-70's as vintage, 1950's as vintage or classic or something and 1940's and earlier as antique.





Ooh! Ooh! I know this one... I think the punchline has something to do with Richard Gere.

 

 

 

+1...... about the gear, not gere:freak:

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