Members turdadactyl Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 "...except that it has a small crack in it." http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/msg/1122863733.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 I HAVE to ask HOW THE HELL people crack a cymbal? Even when I first started, with the cheap cymbals that came with my set, I used for a good 8 months, and I didn't even crack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turdadactyl Posted April 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yep...that's an ongoing topic around here. In 23 years of playing, I have NEVER cracked a cymbal. You really have to try to crack one. IMO, it only happens 1 of 2 ways. 1) You think it's cool to bash stuff and break {censored}, so you try really really hard and just bash til it cracks. 2) You have the cymbal on a stand with exposed threads and no sleeve. And I'll throw in an honorable mention...somebody hits it with something metal. Other than that, it boggles my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yep...that's an ongoing topic around here. In 23 years of playing, I have NEVER cracked a cymbal. You really have to try to crack one. IMO, it only happens 1 of 2 ways.1) You think it's cool to bash stuff and break {censored}, so you try really really hard and just bash til it cracks.2) You have the cymbal on a stand with exposed threads and no sleeve.And I'll throw in an honorable mention...somebody hits it with something metal.Other than that, it boggles my mind. I've tried to break a cymbal once... I STILL couldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turdadactyl Posted April 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 I've tried to break a cymbal once... I STILL couldn't do it. When I was in high school, people would take the orchestral crash cymbals, put them on the floor, step on the bell and flip them inside out. They STILL wouldn't crack. I'm with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 When I was in high school, people would take the orchestral crash cymbals, put them on the floor, step on the bell and flip them inside out. They STILL wouldn't crack. I'm with you. So, how do you break a "brand new" cymbal? Lol. And I'll have to disagree with you... I'll take cheesesteaks AND pretzels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kabaalk Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 He cracked it within the two practices he used it for. Wow. Took me 6 years to crack a 16" Sabian B8 Thin crash. Expensive cymbals are harder to crack, since they're more malleable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 don't let your bass player hit your cymbals. I've lost one or two that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turdadactyl Posted April 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 don't let your bass player hit your cymbals. I've lost one or two that way. Yeah, bassists seem to love to hit crash cymbals with their headstocks. And that says nothing of douche singers and guitarists who think it's ok to stand on kick drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k bollox Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 you can also quite easily crack a cymbal by having it over tightened on the stand (thus not allowing the cymbal to naturally flex when struck) see here:http://www.paiste.com/e/support_usagecare.php?menuid=318 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 you can also quite easily crack a cymbal by having it over tightened on the stand (thus not allowing the cymbal to naturally flex when struck)see here:http://www.paiste.com/e/support_usagecare.php?menuid=318 tHAT EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 At my bands practice space I play a set of B8's + a cracked A custom and a cracked china trash , the cracked cymbals do sound better than the b8s , but still wouldn't buy a cracked cymbal unless it was a nice cymbal that was crazy cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members polarnewfie Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 The only cymbal I have ever had cracked was when my Fukkin RETARDED ex-lead guitarist thought he was funny on stage and started smashing the head of his guitar neck into the edge of my 1960's super thin crash during a big ending of a song, and split it from the edge to the bell. I jumped over the drumset, kicked his ass (literally the fight lasted over 5 minutes in front of the crowd), then the band broke up on the spot. The cymbal was given to me by my father (who died in 1989) and was probably the only thing I had belonged to him. I could have killed him. He knew it was my fathers too, just got drunk and thought he was gonna be a funny guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JakeTheSnake Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yeah, bassists seem to love to hit crash cymbals with their headstocks. And that says nothing of douche singers and guitarists who think it's ok to stand on kick drums. thank you. My bass player talked about standing on my bass drum and the hoop, because he did it in the last band he was in, in which the drummer had a really crappy kit (still not a good excuse). I told him if that happens, I'll be standing on his bass. And I'm a pretty big guy. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turdadactyl Posted April 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 thank you. My bass player talked about standing on my bass drum and the hoop, because he did it in the last band he was in, in which the drummer had a really crappy kit (still not a good excuse). I told him if that happens, I'll be standing on his bass. And I'm a pretty big guy. :poke: I woulda told him I'd be standing on his head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JakeTheSnake Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 haha, fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danrothmusic Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 The crack does not effect the sound whatsoever I'd love to see the seller try to justify that! Anyways, I've never cracked a cymbal. I can understand if a player has cracked one because--like everything else--sometimes you just get a piece of {censored} that somehow slipped past QC. It sucks, but it still happens.Other than that, I don't see it, unless you're abusing them. There is a point where hitting it harder does not make it louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Telestrastic Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 thank you. My bass player talked about standing on my bass drum and the hoop, because he did it in the last band he was in, in which the drummer had a really crappy kit (still not a good excuse). I told him if that happens, I'll be standing on his bass. And I'm a pretty big guy. :poke: Why does this bother you.... Its rock and roll. my lead singer loves just from my kick...:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 Why does this bother you.... Its rock and roll. my lead singer loves just from my kick...:poke: Lay off the crack bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NBarnes21 Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 It is essentially brand new except that it is totally ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cross Eyed Mary Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 You'd be suprised what a pro repair job can do. I'd buy a cracked cymbal if it was a crazy deal. Like a 24" 602 thin for $200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 thank you. My bass player talked about standing on my bass drum and the hoop, because he did it in the last band he was in, in which the drummer had a really crappy kit (still not a good excuse). I told him if that happens, I'll be standing on his bass. And I'm a pretty big guy. :poke: seems to be a MUCH cooler move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NBarnes21 Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 I HAVE to ask HOW THE HELL people crack a cymbal? Even when I first started, with the cheap cymbals that came with my set, I used for a good 8 months, and I didn't even crack them. I've cracked tons of cymbals, sometimes it takes a year of touring or more but they all go eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 I've cracked tons of cymbals, sometimes it takes a year of touring or more but they all go eventually. A year of touring vs. A young drummer who has NO idea what they're doing for 8 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NBarnes21 Posted April 16, 2009 Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 A year of touring vs. A young drummer who has NO idea what they're doing for 8 months? Not quite sure what you're getting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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