Members marko46 Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 I posted a thread last Fall where I had some serious cramping issues, monkey butt and all that crap at a gig. Anyway, I thought I'd taken care of all of the above since then. Anyway, we played a big club last night and it was so friggin' hot it was unbelievable. A boatload of stage lights and spots (house), I'm back and up on the riser, you guys know the drill. Also, I drink a lot of water, (6 bottles last night), I ate four bananas total. Since doing that after that gig last Fall, I've had no problems, until last night again. I knew I was overheated all night, soaked including my jeans. I was feeling a little nauseous, but finished the last set fine. Went outside to cool down and just wasn't feeling well really, shaky. We packed up, got paid and left. I grabbed a samich as I was starving, but had to eat it real slow. Still kinda nauseous, or had to burp, couldn't tell. Started cramping again when I got home and couldn't get to sleep for {censored}. Sorry for being so long. I dropped in and out of sleep, maybe 2 1/2 hours total. I got up and just knew I had to throw-up, and I did bigtime. Water, bananas and the samich. SO, I'm a Safety Director by day, and the shakes, cold and hot flashes, nauseous and vomiting are all symptoms of heat exhaustion. That has to have been it. I think I'm gonna look for something that I can keep against my body somewhere, to help me stay cool at these types of shows. Plus an extra fan. Any ideas? That {censored} sucks.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shasta86 Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 Wet bandannas? Or hire some hot chicks to fan you. Or drum in a wind tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 You sure it was the heat? We've all been fighting some nasty stuff around here, only a few hours away, could be something going around. If you're sure it was heat, get you a blower or two or three, the kind they use on wet carpet industrial blowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 "Turn some of the {censored}ing lights off or I'll beat you to death with your OWN {censored}ING ARMS before I hand them to your god damned WIDOW." practice in front of the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeakerArk Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 It gets chapass hot and very humid here. For years I've used a wet bandana w/ ice wrapped in it, placed around my neck. Replace the ice before ever set. My mother-in-law recently sewed me a coupla specially made "IceSocks" for my neck... a purposemade bandana as it were, w/ a pocket sewn in for the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 Box, I'm gonna get 1 more fan, but you have to be careful with the mic's and all. Can't go too big, plus it may mess my hair:lol: Tim, wonderful idea! I like it. Problem with last night also, we had a professional photographer(s) there all night shooting PR shots, so I think they were askin' for extra lighting at times for color. I'm sure I was red regardless. Beaker, that's exactly what I was thinking about. How the hell did she sew a pocket in one? I'll have to think about that. I can run a sewing machine. Great idea though. Ice is plentyful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeakerArk Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 How the hell did she sew a pocket in one? I'll have to ask her, but basically it's sewn in a tube shape, w/ a pocket in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 Box, I'm gonna get 1 more fan, but you have to be careful with the mic's and all. Can't go too big, plus it may mess my hair:lol: Hey how bout this hillbilly idea..Take a window air conditioner, and a tall road case of somekind, cut a hole in it for the AC and put it in there and seal it up good, so the heat can't get out the box. Open up the lid between sets to let the heat out.. Should blow ice cold air at ya for the whole set.. Turn it off on breaks. Would even work better if you had a plexi surround.Or I heard of guys who ride bikes having these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted May 10, 2009 Members Share Posted May 10, 2009 +1 on more ventilation +10 on the verbal abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kabaalk Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Go to some metal shows and check out what the fat, bald, sweaty drummers are doing. Saw one with a centrifugal fan on a stand, pointed right at him. Nice setup. During breaks, change the underwear - keep a cooler full of frozen skivvies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 What is your pre-set/post-set stretching routine like? prolly not the main problem , but might be a bit of it...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zildjian@consol Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Drink sports drinks which contain a lot of electrolytes.Not enough and you'll have those symptoms which you said.Water is good ,but to much washes out the vitamins that your body needs. Read the lables,you don't want a lot a sugar either.Propel is a good one to use, I used to drink it before races, just be careful of the heat! Heat stroke is hard to recover from, -------mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darten Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Well this is kinda working off of Beakers mother in laws idea.. but what if you had a vest made with pocket on the inside to hold those frozen wax packets that are reusable? One across the shoulder blades, and one on each side of the rib cage... that would cool you off.... or give you a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hit the gym - with a trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted May 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Thanks for the suggetions guys.As far as the gym, that's out. I dropped my membership because I wasn't using it once I started playing in two bands. I've got weights here at home, and will start ridind my bike after this week.My stretching is 7 to 10 minutes before each show. I'm adement about that.I'd say Z's and Beaker's idea, plus more air movement.I feel fine today, went to bed at 8:00 last night and slept well.But that's some miserable {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Drink sports drinks which contain a lot of electrolytes.Not enough and you'll have those symptoms which you said.Water is good ,but to much washes out the vitamins that your body needs. Read the lables,you don't want a lot a sugar either.Propel is a good one to use, I used to drink it before races, just be careful of the heat! Heat stroke is hard to recover from, ------- mark Gatorade FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 ...that's out... I was thinking aerobics and stamina stuff. Bouncing ladies etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slight-return Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Marko blubandoo make "swampcooling" hats and bandannas and such (you can prob find other brands)..they basically have a superabsorbing polymer (similar to what's in a diaper) to hold a lot of water and release at a good rate for cooling I'd also suggest a synthetic (prolypro, etc) dual layer shirt (as opposed to cotton) -- there are a large number of companies, a modern cycling jersey is a specialized option (one nice thing about em is they have pockets on the back so as long as you aren't using a seatback, it's a great place to stash stuff) your local technical sport store should be able to help ya out with shirt and pants (jeans sound like a nasty biz in that heat) With hydration (and this, as safety officer you may already know abt) you need to drink BEFORE you are thirsty.Keep in mind you can absorb about 1 cup of water every 15 mins - so regular drinking little bits to match that rate is kind of keyFor sports drinks I pref cytomax or accellerade , but mixed maybe 1/4 strength (you are OK up to abt 6%-8% sugar before you impede water absorbtion - so just watch that with the sweeter stuff or your mixology) and switch between that and straight water you may also want to consider upping your carbs for a couple of days pre-event to avoid glycogen depletion (aka "bonking") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k7mto Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 Just be glad you puked up the bananas - 4 bananas would have corked you up like nobody's business!! I always bring a pair of shorts in case the venue is too hot, and here in AZ, we play some outside shows even during summer when it's way over 100, so shorts are mandatory (btw, drummers are the ONLY band members who can maintain the coolness while wearing shorts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 well good on you for the pre-stretch , but I'm not hearing about any post-stretch...:poke: Again I'm sure most of your problem is in the heat dept. , but here's what I was taught (now I just need to learn to follow it) Pre-gig stretch/Between set stretch: This is for the music and your ability to execute , to loosen up before battle , get your body's game on in a manner that helps keep it on. Post-gig Stretch and cool down : This is to help repair the damage we've just incurred. This is all about getting back to level. Bissonette talks of getting bags of ice from convenience stores after gigs to ice down his muscles on the ride home from a gig or session. Also he talks about how ice is for after , you do not want to ice down muscles and joints that are working or will soon be working ...Ice is for After. ...Basically : Pre-gig/Between set : for the Band Post gig: for your Body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rayboomboom Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 try something like this:http://www.neckcoolersrus.com/I see them at festivals and I've seen them at sporting goods stores. They're filled with some kind of crystal that absorbs water. You soak them for an hour or so and where it. Also agree with what was said about sports drinks, carbs - I usually eat a bowl of past before any strenuous gig, and hydrate before you start! Too bad your worried about those long flowing locks of hair, you could just blast yourself with wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slight-return Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 4 bananas would have corked you up like nobody's business!! that's odd - I got the impression he was eating them maybe "I got too hot" was meant in a much different way than I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k7mto Posted May 11, 2009 Members Share Posted May 11, 2009 that's odd - I got the impression he was eating them hehe - bad choice of words on my part Too many ingested bananas can be detrimental to your regularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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