Double Bass Pedal..need help

Hi ther...

I want to purchase a new db pedal. I am just a beginner, I am looking for a cheap one to start with. i just want to get my feet moving. Any anybody suggest one.. plz give me some tips before buying a pedal...thanks..

What's your local craigslist? I'm sure we can dig one up on there.

Good move on the feet. Unfortunately cheap doubles are usually unbalanceable and may do little more than waste your time before they break. (This is highly arguable and I imagine someone will. Which is good.) I think your best bet is two good standard 50 dollar pedals and two kick practicer pads. Same expense as a double, better education.

I disagree. I got a second Tama Iron Cobra double pedal for $100. You just have to keep your eyes open. If he gets two kick pedals and two pads, eventually he's going to need two kick drums. Then that's 2 pads worth of cash wasted.

Why?

you start to like it. You're on equal footing haha then you get a Sonor as a graduation present.

{censored}ty pedals, in general, are a bad idea. this is just a theory i stand by and have experienced the reality on many occasions.

IMHO, you'd be better served to not even bother till you can afford one that at least won't hinder your playing. cheap pedals WILL do that, i assure you.

thanks aenemated...thts a valuable advice..so which do you think would be best to start with?

Turd and aenemated are right. I own two Pearl Elimnators, both used. I paid 125.00 for one, 165.00 for the other, but it came with the nice case.

I've owned IC's, DW, Axis and now the Pearls, which I've settled on as my favorites for me. I can only suggest from what I have experience with. Look for a set of IC's or Eliminators used. No reason you can't find 'em for 150.00 or less. But there are other's..........

it's really a personal preference, honestly - what YOU like best when it comes to feel. personally, i like the DW9000 series A LOT. it feels and responds great to me. but i also know some fellas that prefer the DW5000 series over them for whatever reason. though, they're both far from cheap. but on the other hand; i've had my 9000 since they came out and it's been flawless since day one. something to be said for durability.

i played pearl pedals years ago; they always felt great but to me, but there was some lack of control with the response. same goes for iron cobras. a lot of guys love one or the other and that's cool, but *I* always felt something was lacking that i feel in the DWs i've had over the years.

i posted the other day some advice given to me by the salesguy that sold me my first kit ever way back like 15 years ago (and didn't know ANYTHING about drums). basically, he told me it was totally ok to cheap out on EVERYTHING but a pedal. and i still preach that to this day and am so thankful for that advice.

i've played shows where we (the drummers, that is) couldn't bring our own {censored}, just to save time between bands (those shows where it's like - ok, that band's done - GO GO GO!) - and i ALWAYS hated it cuz i always wound up having to play on some {censored} pedal and i swear i couldn't do half of what i could on mine with it.

so, really ... i'd say try out a bunch at whatever shop you go to. find one that feels smooth and solid and, most importantly (i think) effortless. if speed is what you're going for, the last thing you want is some {censored}ty pedal holding you back. i, personally, love DW pedals and i won't even bother trying anything else - but i know they're pricey and it was several years into my playin days i was able to afford just a single, let alone a double.

if the one YOU like is a little out of your price range ... just wait a bit and save till you can afford it. though, i REALLY don't know much about what's on the market these days. i haven't even for a second thought about a different pedal since i got my 9000 back in probably 2003 or 2004; whenever it was. there may very well be some great pedals available now for a reasonable price that weren't around last time i went pedal shopping. just go in and check out what you can and decide for yourself based on feel and not price and go from there. or find one you feel you like the best and shop around - drum gear is always pretty cheap on ebay. or even craigslist is somewhere to look. nothing wrong with used gear and god knows i went through a ton of it when i was younger.

Any of the following are rock solid choices:

Tama Iron Cobra

DW 5002

DW 9002 (A little expensive for a minor upgrade over the 5000)

DW 7002 (not as good as the others IMO)

Pearl Eliminator

Axis

There are a ton to choose from. And the comment about personal preference is right on.

Again, if you can score a deal on one, you'll have no problem getting your money back if you don't like it and want to resell it. And most of them are HIGHLY adjustable.

So...if you tell us what city you're in, we may be able to help you find one on craigslist.

There's one distinct law to getting 2 fixed cheap pedals over a double - and you can get gig worthy ones on special all the time, and that is, you can't screw things up with the adjustments. Period. Pedal, swings correct right out the box and your feet get started right away on a good stroke.

You've never played a decent beat in your life and you get a used dual cobra and maybe the guy had it adjusted for metal - dunn matter if you leave it that way or start dicking with all the parameters. You 99% waste noob development time.

marty13, PM me.

marko

..thanks guyz for all ur views...yup it does make sense to save money and buy the best in the market...

Dang..you got a good deal there

But yeah, better to go with a quality used DP than a new cheap one

I recently bought an Eliminator double off our ex-drummer for $135, not the deal of the century but better than shelling out $300 plus for a new one

I am from Mumbai (India)...I Can get Iron Cobra, Pearl Eliminator, Axis here but I am not sure about DW pedals..

Oh, that didn't help much, there's only 3 postings in the whole musical instruments section:facepalm:

OK then, how old are you? What can you afford? Teachers? etc...

..hi 1001gear...am 23...i can afford upto $200...

What about teachers and stuff?

hey marty i have a gibraltar [chain drive] lying around i can get rid of ,not sure of the model,can send you a pic later today if interested,will consider trade or cash.

pm me if you want to check it out.

it will not cost you 200

Got your PM. Like I said my box is filling. Mine locks up at 50. Just need to dump some of it.

200 bucks would get you some kind of used double and everybody would be happy. My concern is that you make the move that's right for you. Can you tell us more about the rest of your equipment and the kinds of music you like/play?

hi 1001gear....I am using a cheap chancellor drum set...it sounds horrible .I am thinking of upgrading the drum set.. I would be changing the drum heads..I am more into Nirvana, Pearl Jam kind of drumming..but want to learn some metal stuff...

....I have one query...Do you think changing the drum heads would change the sound completely??

How much does the wood of the drum set affect the sound?

Good heads tuned well would ne the majority of the tone you can get out of those things. Check the bearing edges. these are the ends of the shells where the head makes actual contact. They should be cut into a point like this: ^

Some really cheap kits are left flat because the wood is too splintery to cut. This type of flat edge prevents the heads from fully resonating. The result is dead, not so good sound.

The wood and shell dimensions all affect the quality of tone but these are finer points and tend to factor into professional concerns like recording and live performance.

Find a good teacher - check with the universities first.

Could you plz explain this more...i didnt get u..

Most drums are just plywood bent into a tube. The ends where the heads would go are flat and probably just a little ratty. They need to be machined to a fine edge so they can support the heads much like a guitar bridge would, strings.

It used to be that the cheap kits were made in Asia from Luan wood. It's often referred to as Mahogany but it's not even close to drum quality. It's not unusual to find these kits with flat edges. Turns out the reason is not so much cost cutting as it is the wood is too splintery.