Members solomen4 Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 ok so i bought Aquarian heads for my drum set. i had a question because on the bottomn of the tom i have evans hydrolics. now will that make a difference in the sound of a 12 inch tom? also i have been having a hard time trying not to kill the sound but if i loosin it to much it makes that ringing sound and i dont like it. now as you can tell im a beginner drummer i have been playing drums for about 3 years. so if u guys can help with atleast with one of my questions that will be awesome. thank you:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 What heads did you buy? As a general rule, you should use single-ply heads on the bottom of toms. The Hydraulic is a two-ply head filled with oil. The general consensus is it kills the sound of most drums, especially on the bottom (resonant) side of toms. So what heads do you have for the 12" now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members devinw Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 As a general rule, the Evans Hydraulic does NOT make a good resonant head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 for my 12" i have the evans on the bottom and the aquariam studio x heads as for my 16" also. but thx for the tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agogobill Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Check out: http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/ about heads. and check out the Bob Gatzen tuning videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 I would try an Aquarian Classic Clear, a Remo Ambassador, or an Evans G1 on the bottom of that drum...even if you have an older one laying around it would probably sound 10 times better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 yeah i had evans g2 im pretty sure and it sounded really good so next time when i get my heads again ill get evans. really like em. also thx for the vids helped out alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 The Studio X's are good heads, it's just for resonant heads you want them to resonate (get it?)...so use single ply heads without muffling. If you really, really hate the Studio X's you can remove the muffling (it's just a sticker) and use it on the reso side and put your G2's on the batter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 so those evans hydrolics can make a big difference to the sound on the studiox's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 The Hydraulics literally have oil between two layers of plastic, so it kills the sound completely. If you have any other head at all that isn't a Hydraulic, it would probably sound better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 alright cuz with my 12" tom the studio x's have the built in muters but it still rings out too much and if i put on a muter it kills the sound way too quick. but yeah ill need to get some bottom heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 alright cuz with my 12" tom the studio x's have the built in muters but it still rings out too much and if i put on a muter it kills the sound way too quick. but yeah ill need to get some bottom heads. Most guys use 10mil single-ply clear heads for resos: Remo Ambassador, Evans G1, Aquarian Classic Clear. Also: the better you tune, the more of that ring goes away and what's left is good-sounding, not obnoxious. So if you're an inexperienced tuner, it might be best to stick with a classic combination, such as clear Emperors over clear Ambassadors or clear G2s over clear G1s, and get your tuning chops honed. When you do get your tuning up to snuff they'll sound great, where a heavily muffled head (such as the hydraulics) will sound soft and lifeless. Finally: real drums have some ring. It's a good thing, makes the drums sound lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 well yeah i do want some ring but not to the point were it makes high pitch noise if u know what im talking about. also thank you for your opinions. cause it helps me as a new drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted January 9, 2010 Members Share Posted January 9, 2010 Hydraulics are the best tone killers, most likely the worst resonant you could use unless dead is desired. Welcome to the forum, watch as much Gatzen videos you can, very helpful from beginners to pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members piersonm Posted January 9, 2010 Members Share Posted January 9, 2010 The evans hydrolics make a big difference to the sound of the DRUM? Fixed. Another for Gatzen. Drum tuning seems to be a 'secret art' among many drummers. I remember my first set of heads, I had duct-tape, kleenex and those HORRIBLE Remo Muffle Rings (not the thin plastic that sits on top, but a plastic tray that holds a foam roam)....yeah, it still sounded ringy and horrible because I didn't know what I was doing. Takes some practice, but you'll be amazed at how many people will tell you they love the sound of your drums and you should always offer your 'expertise' to those who have yet to learn the art (in a friendly way of course). You need to tune them up right and let em sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 thx so much. all of you guys been lots of help to me. but yes i really need to change those heads of course. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted January 10, 2010 Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 Stick around, solomen4, anyone who reads my posts knows there's no question too stupid to ask. And while most of us will give you {censored} while we're doing it, you'll prolly get helpful answers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solomen4 Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 i changed my bottom heads to evans g2 there 2ply but they sound alright with the aquarians. they sound a bit dead but their much better then what it was. so that helped out alot til i get single-ply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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