Members satman Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 i know we are all on different skill levels which is what makes this place great but i am wondering what song just drives you nuts when you take it out back ? i have been trying to get the intro down to "take the money and run" steve miller band i have yet to get this down, is there some intricate {censored} going on here or what ? i just think that intro is kewl as {censored} and i am bound and determined to nail this down . i get close but not exact any tips on this jam ? if you have a vid or lesson of this jam i would love to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lsits Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 First make sure you get all your limbs working in the proper wequence. The get a metronome and set it ridiculously slow. Once you get it, start increasing the tempo. Get to where you can do it faster than the normal tempo, the regular speed will be a piece of cake. Remember, if you can't play it slow, you won't be able to play it fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JMR Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 I tend to not learn a song unless I'm playing it with some friends. I've figured out some jon theodore era mars volta beats, andrew forsman tfot beats, lots of punk like refused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satman Posted July 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 First make sure you get all your limbs working in the proper wequence. The get a metronome and set it ridiculously slow. Once you get it, start increasing the tempo. Get to where you can do it faster than the normal tempo, the regular speed will be a piece of cake. Remember, if you can't play it slow, you won't be able to play it fast.i guess i need to get my click out,lol ! for some reason getting out of the gate just stomps my ass but after a few bars i can jump right in, i just dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 Didn't you post this last year? The guy is a professional drummer and doing quite an articulate job of that beat. The pattern isn't that difficult and you could probably forge through it in a couple months - but don't. Get snare lessons and beginner set lessons. That way you'll get to it without creating bad habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 I've been working on putting both of these parts together, mostly focusing on the BD/HH part. [YOUTUBE]B0zJKf6tA5c[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 I still can't play fool in the Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 Gremmy I can help you fool in the rain... The Tower of Power stuff used to kick my ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hmm, I've honestly never worked on a song before, usually I just listen to it in the car and memorize the drum part, then play through it a few times. Books though...I would spend hours with Rick Latham's Advanced Funk Studies, David Garibaldi's Future Sounds, and 4-Way Coordination was just the most evil thing in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 "take the money and run" steve miller band my college band covered this song. i'd only been playing for like 2-3 years at that point and yeah ... that one was a MOTHER{censored}ER to learn. lotta subtle {censored} that makes it FEEL right. that said; for years i've wanted to nail this double bass part; but for the life of me, i can't get it right. every time i start working on it, i feel like a total retard and just move on. Kgp_ZbTPsqY starts around :30. it sounds so goddamn easy; but i just CAN. NOT. GET. IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bitter Dawn Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 Meh, all the drums are the same in the genre is listen to...just keep blasting relentless. On a slightly more serious note. Do you lot find it beneficial at all to cover other musician's work? aenemated, bad ass song dude, always did like Genitortures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 aenemated, bad ass song dude, always did like Genitortures. yeah, they were pretty rad till they went too dance-style. i really dig the 120 days record. i dated one of the dancers/performers from them back when i was living in vegas. she was an ... um ... interesting girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skinthrasher Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 I still can't play fool in the Rain. Fool in the Rain is the Purdie Shuffle in half time, I can nail the hats on the Purdie shuffle but when I start working on Fool in the Rain my hat work just sounds like I'm playing 8'ths. Been working on it for like six months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zildjian@consol Posted July 10, 2010 Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 Fool in the Rain is the Purdie Shuffle in half time, I can nail the hats on the Purdie shuffle but when I start working on Fool in the Rain my hat work just sounds like I'm playing 8'ths. Been working on it for like six months! that song is a love/hate thing about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Gremmy I can help you fool in the rain... O rly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomboomdrums Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 2 I've tried to do several times and never was able to get down was the Purdie Shuffle and "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover". I could play it pretty much but it never did sound right if you know what I mean. I think I'm gonna dig it back out and try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bitter Dawn Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 yeah, they were pretty rad till they went too dance-style. i really dig the 120 days record.i dated one of the dancers/performers from them back when i was living in vegas. she was an ... um ... interesting girl. Seems to be a problem with various industrial bands, ie: Skinny Puppy's "The Greater Wrong Of The Right" was a hit and miss amongst fans, since it had a really poppy sound compared to their older, more experimental stuff. In regards to the broad, I can imagine dude and personally, I kind of dig 'em crazy and screwy myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Then get a metronome and set it ridiculously slow. Once you get it, start increasing the tempo. Get to where you can do it faster than the normal tempo, the regular speed will be a piece of cake. Remember, if you can't play it slow, you won't be able to play it fast. Truth. Most of my students want to practice everything up to speed. They make mistakes. Therefore, what they're doing when they practice up to tempo is learning the mistakes. The key is to learn it right, at whatever speed, and then make it faster. Making a lick or a pattern or a groove faster is relatively easy. But you must start from right. As to satman's question, the number of things I can't do would, as they say, fill a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zildjian@consol Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 learning it slow is the key, if you can't play it slow ,speeding up helps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satman Posted July 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Didn't you post this last year? The guy is a professional drummer and doing quite an articulate job of that beat. yea i was trying to get it a long time ago but got frustrated and gave up on it and moved on.slowing down might be the key because i was trying it at tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted July 11, 2010 Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Here are some examples - the first two sporting the typical, less than rock steady snare drum and 4 way coordination. The third just a run through but stable enough for a cover. This guy has difficulty playing it slow. [YOUTUBE]avEifaSlloI[/YOUTUBE] This guy breaks it down but also gets choppy on the slow version. [YOUTUBE]CIOLTuSCUsY[/YOUTUBE] This guy just runs through the play along. Pretty well too. [YOUTUBE]_qrhS80kUZo[/YOUTUBE] Compare to Steve Gadd doing any beat. The preparation matters many giga percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satman Posted July 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 11, 2010 Compare to Steve Gadd doing any beat. The preparation matters many giga percent. cool bro thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phrozt Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 i dated one of the dancers/performers from them back when i was living in vegas. she was an ... um ... interesting girl. Yeah.. I dated a girl who's now on backstagebetties.com (not at all SFW). Interesting is definitely the word to associate w/those types of girls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionfunk Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Fool in the Rain is the Purdie Shuffle in half time, Uh, not quite. First off, Fool In The Rain, The Purdie Shuffle, and Rosanna are ALL half time shuffles. The foot pattern for Fool is different than the basic Purdie shuffle, and Fool also has a "broken" HH pattern where the accent is, in that he uses the closing of the HH in place of an actual stick hit, as opposed to a continuous shuffle with the Purdie and Rosanna variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted July 12, 2010 Members Share Posted July 12, 2010 Compare to Steve Gadd doing any beat. The preparation matters many giga percent. 1 and 2 should not exist. time slips in 3 in a few places but overall, pretty solid imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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