Members jonathan_matos5 Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 how do you do lip trills? i want to do them but i currently cant:mad: for you valve/key instrument people i do have trill envy:o:blah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hunter6 Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 how do you do lip trills? i want to do them but i currently cant:mad:for you valve/key instrument people i do have trill envy:o:blah: I've been trying to figure 'em out a bit.I can't do them real slowly, but not the super fast trills that I WANT to do. So, someone come help us out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 Lip trills are, in effect, extremely fast lip slurs. Check out Charles Colins Advanced Lip Flexibility Studies for some excellent slur/trill exercises. My book is written for treble clef but I'd figure that there is a bass clef version by now. When I work on it, I get best results setting my lips for the upper note, and using my tongue to go between the two (ahhh eeee ahhh eeee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danrothmusic Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 really fast lip slurs, if we're thinking of the same thing (I'm thinking of what a lot of big band trumpet players will do on the loud high notes)they work best for the upper register (as in, they don't sound good at all for lower notes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 Same thing. They work better up high because the partials are closer together. Lip trills on low notes don't work so well, but practicing the slurs in that register is where anyone should start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted February 25, 2008 Members Share Posted February 25, 2008 Yeah I had major problems with lip slurs when I was a tyke. Like SBB said, lip "trills" in teh upper register are easier because the partials are closer, but one way to practice them is by doing lip SLURS in the lower register. Say C-G-C. While you're on the low C, make all the lip adjustments for the G (tighten the lips, angle the air down, bring your corners up, bring the back of your tongue up) and then when you're ready to hit the G, just pop it into place with your air stream, since (hopefully) you're physically already there. Easier said than done, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted February 25, 2008 Members Share Posted February 25, 2008 For sure. I've finally gotten to where E-G and G-Bb are solid pseudo trills. Its taken a long time. One other benefit-anything you can lip trill, is a solid note. That means more range. And the higher you can play, the bigger your junk is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonathan_matos5 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 25, 2008 am i supposed to tongue between the notes in the trill? i was trying to get a trill today during my early practice and all i got was this sloppy glissando sound in and out of pitch:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Imaginos Posted February 25, 2008 Members Share Posted February 25, 2008 am i supposed to tongue between the notes in the trill? Not at all - you use the middle of the tongue to redirect the airstream to hit different partials. Do you do lip slurs as part of your warmup routine? The idea is very similar. Basically a lip trill is a very rapid lip slur between two adjacent notes. I would start by doing a slow and controlled alternation between the notes, and speed things up gradually... BTW - if you don't regularly do lip slurs, I would highly recommend them, they're incredibly beneficial for the chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonathan_matos5 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 25, 2008 Not at all - you use the middle of the tongue to redirect the airstream to hit different partials. Do you do lip slurs as part of your warmup routine? The idea is very similar. Basically a lip trill is a very rapid lip slur between two adjacent notes. I would start by doing a slow and controlled alternation between the notes, and speed things up gradually... BTW - if you don't regularly do lip slurs, I would highly recommend them, they're incredibly beneficial for the chops. if i only practice one thing its lip slurs i guess im just getting a sloppy trill:freak: ill practice more:blah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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