Members greenoz Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 While recording my voice with the song 'One Last Cry by Brian Mccknigt', I sound awful. Haha. I sound pretty good in mid-tempo and upbeat track but i don't know why i can't sing ballads? Do you agree that ballad is difficult to sing ? Do you have any tips in singing ballads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Hard to tell without hearing you, but I will say that I find ballads easier, as I find holding notes easier than running through a quick succession of pitch changes. Perhaps you're not used to regulating your dynamics? If you use too much volume/power (which singers will often do in an effort to sustain the held notes), the sound could go south--vowels go splat, tone goes brassy, etc. Dunno, just a guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted August 27, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 27, 2010 There's often more sustained notes in ballads. Its especially hard if the sustained notes are in the upper range. If you transpose the notes and still have difficulty then you probably need to work more on breath control and try to get your notes to be sung using an even flow of breath. Or else you're gonna sound 'shaky.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chester_Hoss Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 yea, this is what my singing speed thread is about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenoz Posted August 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Yaassss. Thanks guys, great tips. I hope i could sing ballad now :-D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SomeoneYouKnew Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 While recording my voice with the song 'One Last Cry by Brian Mccknigt', I sound awful. Haha. I sound pretty good in mid-tempo and upbeat track but i don't know why i can't sing ballads? Do you agree that ballad is difficult to sing ? Do you have any tips in singing ballads? You might be relying on too much breath support to produce the notes. Or perhaps pitch control is an issue and you have a tendency to wander on sustained notes. I can't really say without hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenoz Posted August 28, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 How dynamics works? I don't have idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 I agree fully with Jersey on this. Singing slow ballad-type songs is "easier" (for me and him it seems) than lots of quickly sung notes with different tempos, but at the same time, traditional ballad songs tend to be...sort of dramatic, over-sung at times, STRONG, BELTY notes...if you can't do this sort of singing easily, it'll be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenoz Posted August 28, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 ^haha. Yah. I can't do those thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted August 28, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 28, 2010 what do you think is actually limiting you from singing slow ballad songs? because for me it doesn't matter about the speed of the song. the main thing that is limiting my singing is my low range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleepersurprise Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 yee haw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 The main problem I have when singing a ballad is with the dynamics. Ballads are slow and without dynamics to add emotion, they sound very dull. My voice is a no dynamics zone so I always sounds boring and emotionless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenoz Posted August 28, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 The main problem I have when singing a ballad is with the dynamics. Ballads are slow and without dynamics to add emotion, they sound very dull. My voice is a no dynamics zone so I always sounds boring and emotionless. this @davie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 I don't find my problem is a dull or dynamic-less voice, I feel my problem with strong, belty type power ballad notes is USUALLY (highly depending on what note they are. The higher the easier), my voice just falls flat. Not NOTE flat, but resonance flat. Totally powerless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 I'd like to hear you try.Your voice can be quite soft but I bet its got some tricks hidden some wear. Higher is easier for you? I guess everyone's voice is very different cause I cant mix to high so if it's very high it's powerless, one of the reasons I cant sing josh's songs well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted August 28, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 28, 2010 greenoz, jvardon. How are you guys lacking in dynamics? Like.. can't sing loud? can't sing soft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 lol. you've obviously never heard me.All one level with me until I belt and get annoyingly loud (I know I'm doing it wrong but trying to see if i can get it right by experimenting).I've also had numerous people tell me that I'm "not singing out, or loud enough." To get louder impairs my enunciation and hurts my throat eventually and further impairs my ability to sing with any emotion at all.I can't seem to show any emotion, when I try it sounds awkward and out of place. Here's an example of my emotionless voice.Dont rain on my parade - http://www.box.net/shared/ikmaanckgr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 lol. you've obviously never heard me.All one level with me until I belt and get annoyingly loud (I know I'm doing it wrong but trying to see if i can get it right by experimenting).I've also had numerous people tell me that I'm "not singing out, or loud enough." To get louder impairs my enunciation and hurts my throat eventually and further impairs my ability to sing with any emotion at all.I can't seem to show any emotion, when I try it sounds awkward and out of place.Here's an example of my emotionless voice.Dont rain on my parade - http://www.box.net/shared/ikmaanckgr Interesting song selection. One tip may be to visualize in your head how you want your voice to sound to visualize ("hear in your head") the inflections of timing/pitch. This would obviously be done simultaneously to singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 Well I, along with a large percentage of Americans, love the show Glee.The show introduced me to this song which I really love and it was a challenge for me at first but it's the first song that I have really worked my way through. I can now mix/belt all the higher bits which before I had to use head voice. Tip sounds like a good idea but I'm not exactly sure how I want To sound, I just know I DON'T want to sound emotionless anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenoz Posted August 28, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 greenoz, jvardon. How are you guys lacking in dynamics? Like.. can't sing loud? can't sing soft? can't sing soft dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DukeOfBoom Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 Tip sounds like a good idea but I'm not exactly sure how I want To sound, I just know I DON'T want to sound emotionless anymore. Oh well that's a big problem there man. You got to know how you want to sound first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted August 29, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 29, 2010 Tip sounds like a good idea but I'm not exactly sure how I want To sound, I just know I DON'T want to sound emotionless anymore. I find that Broadway musical singing sounds too pretentious, its like they're pop singers pretending to be opera singers trying to sing pop tunes . Listen more to some blues singers. After listening to blues albums for over a year, it gave me a lot of inspiration on the emotional aspect of singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted August 29, 2010 Members Share Posted August 29, 2010 lol. Your reasoning for their "pretentiousness" (if thats a word) is why I like them. I would like opera but all that vibrato is a bit distracting and makes it impossible to hear what they're singing. Broadway musicals combine the cleaner sound of a pop style voice with the soaring arias of an opera, except with silly lyrics.I'll see if I can find a blues singer I enjoy and hopefully I will get a few tips on showing emotion. Would you classify Michael Buble is blues?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted August 29, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 29, 2010 lol. Your reasoning for their "pretentiousness" (if thats a word) is why I like them. I would like opera but all that vibrato is a bit distracting and makes it impossible to hear what they're singing. Broadway musicals combine the cleaner sound of a pop style voice with the soaring arias of an opera, except with silly lyrics.I'll see if I can find a blues singer I enjoy and hopefully I will get a few tips on showing emotion. Would you classify Michael Buble is blues?? haha. and no Buble isn't a blues guy. If you want to hear some influential blues, some of my favourites are BB King, Keb Mo and Taj Mahal. Check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted August 29, 2010 Members Share Posted August 29, 2010 Meh, Michael Boob-lay is a swing man in my opinion, not blues. I don't really like blues much myself...I also don't like Glee, but I prefer that sort of musicals-type singing to blues...or do I? *undecided* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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