Members tacatta Posted June 22, 2010 Members Share Posted June 22, 2010 How do i find what key i naturally sing in? Also any info on octave range and or type of voice soprano,baritone etc.Thanx any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted June 23, 2010 Moderators Share Posted June 23, 2010 There is no vocal key for any particular singer. it depends on the song, every song is played in different keys, but the best key for a singer is the key that allows the singer to comfortably sing and allow the singer to utilize their best dynamic parts of their vocal range accordingly. The key that you want to choose is all dependent on the composition and melody and where the notes are located. Also, you should never classify your voice type until you discover your true potential. Just sing whatever is comfortable for you. Only a well-experienced voice teacher can help you classify your voice and only after you have enough training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rache Posted June 23, 2010 Members Share Posted June 23, 2010 this might also helphttp://www.ehow.com/how_13671_find-vocal-range.html Ive heard people say "change the song to my key" and stuff like that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urca Posted June 23, 2010 Members Share Posted June 23, 2010 Sounds like you sing in the key of D schnerp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pagxurwoi Posted June 23, 2010 Members Share Posted June 23, 2010 hey I like the things that i learned and discovered from here today..Thank you so much guys for sharing this post and the links..Hope to learn some more and be able to share in return in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted June 23, 2010 Members Share Posted June 23, 2010 At the significant risk of being called a schnerp, can I ask what that word means? If one has to ask, is one therefore a schnerp? For what it's worth, I did google it, but...nothing. I suppose one can infer a general meaning--did you make it up? To the OP: The classification of your voice has little or no significance outside of classical music--and even here, the difference is less significant than you might imagine. And there's no such thing as a singer having a special key--as others have noted, the proper key is relative to the particular melody, and this in turn is relative to your comfort zone. If you want to expand your range, go for it, but there is no standard outside of your comfort zone in a particular song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greenoz Posted June 24, 2010 Members Share Posted June 24, 2010 The people here are awesome. I love those fact and technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bajazz Posted June 25, 2010 Members Share Posted June 25, 2010 Why not try to sing it in the original key? Real vocalists can sing any song in any key. It's only about practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kool98769 Posted June 25, 2010 Members Share Posted June 25, 2010 Why not try to sing it in the original key? Real vocalists can sing any song in any key. It's only about practice. Not if they physically dont have the range to sing it in any key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bajazz Posted June 25, 2010 Members Share Posted June 25, 2010 Not if they physically dont have the range to sing it in any key What do you mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted June 26, 2010 Moderators Share Posted June 26, 2010 What do you mean by that? Every singer has a different vocal range. So not every singer will be able to sing a song at the original key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted June 26, 2010 Members Share Posted June 26, 2010 Why not try to sing it in the original key? Real vocalists can sing any song in any key. It's only about practice. Agreed, but I think the goal of singing a cover song in the same key as the original recording is highly over-rated. It carries a challenge, sure, a quasi-athletic appeal; but artistically I don't think it's very important. Consider the versions of Hallelujah recorded by Jeff Buckley, Rufus Wainwright, and Justin Timberlake--among many others. I'm not sure, frankly, what key these versions are in, but I doubt that any of these terrific singers felt the need to keep the original key as sung by Leonard Cohen! It seems that keeping the key is valued for only two reasons: 1. The song is sung very high (athleticism)2. The performance is for a tribute act (a sense of purity/devotion). Neither of these is very compelling, IMHO. I would urge singers to stretch artistically--make a cover song your own. What would Eddie Vedder do with a cover of Queen, or Journey, or Macca, or (take your pick)? He wouldn't, I think, make it a priority to match the original key. That said, I understand that some few folks out there have perfect pitch and can sense a change of key in a well-known song. Very few people have this ability, and among those who do, even fewer would be bothered by it--especially if the performance was compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted June 26, 2010 Moderators Share Posted June 26, 2010 Agreed, but I think the goal of singing a cover song in the same key as the original recording is highly over-rated. It carries a challenge, sure, a quasi-athletic appeal; but artistically I don't think it's very important. Consider the versions of Hallelujah recorded by Jeff Buckley, Rufus Wainwright, and Justin Timberlake--among many others. I'm not sure, frankly, what key these versions are in, but I doubt that any of these terrific singers felt the need to keep the original key as sung by Leonard Cohen! It seems that keeping the key is valued for only two reasons: 1. The song is sung very high (athleticism) 2. The performance is for a tribute act (a sense of purity/devotion). Neither of these is very compelling, IMHO. I would urge singers to stretch artistically--make a cover song your own. What would Eddie Vedder do with a cover of Queen, or Journey, or Macca, or (take your pick)? He wouldn't, I think, make it a priority to match the original key. That said, I understand that some few folks out there have perfect pitch and can sense a change of key in a well-known song. Very few people have this ability, and among those who do, even fewer would be bothered by it--especially if the performance was compelling. +1, i'm so agreeing with you, Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Temple of Light Posted June 27, 2010 Members Share Posted June 27, 2010 Every singer has a different vocal range. So not every singer will be able to sing a song at the original key. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. You dont have a key, only a range. If your'e a guy, Bass,Tenor, Baritone, etc is probably where you would fit in the range, if a chick, your'e probably more in the Alto, Soprano range. Check this for further info:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted June 28, 2010 Members Share Posted June 28, 2010 Why not try to sing it in the original key? Real vocalists can sing any song in any key. It's only about practice. Wrong in every way. Even with training and practice, vocalists all have a limited range - it's what you're born with. Only certain vocalists can sing certain songs - especially high stuff. Ever try to sing along with the radio songs from the classic rock bands? You probably can't reach those notes. Try singing a song by Boston, Loverboy, Rush or Deep Purple. Nowadays there's a lot more songs that are in "easy" range, especially rap/hip hop/indie. But the tough stuff still differentiates the good from the great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted June 28, 2010 Members Share Posted June 28, 2010 One thing that comes to mind... Let's say you think your key is C. So you play,write,transpose everything in the Key of C. It gets really boring to hear the same key all the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted June 28, 2010 Members Share Posted June 28, 2010 Wrong in every way. Even with training and practice, vocalists all have a limited range - it's what you're born with. Only certain vocalists can sing certain songs - especially high stuff.. This is an extreme position. If true, then 90% of pop vocal instructors are charlatans and swindlers, as expanding vocal range is the reigning obsession in pop vocal training circles. What people are born with is the ability to develop an expansive range. Some do this sooner, on their own; others take more time, with help from a coach. Most of us have the ability to sing high notes if we decide to invest the time, money, and energy. Even vocal tone can be developed--look at the various impersonators who not only can talk like various celebrities but can also sing like them! Try singing a song by Boston, Loverboy, Rush or Deep Purple. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Temple of Light Posted June 29, 2010 Members Share Posted June 29, 2010 This is an extreme position. If true, then 90% of pop vocal instructors are charlatans and swindlers, as expanding vocal range is the reigning obsession in pop vocal training circles. What people are born with is the ability to develop an expansive range. Some do this sooner, on their own; others take more time, with help from a coach. Most of us have the ability to sing high notes if we decide to invest the time, money, and energy. So true. I found that when I was younger I could shreek as high as Bon Scott, or even Bono ,and alot of the chick singers too, {like Mariah, Madonna, Sade, etc...}. What I found is the ability to sing practically anything I could hear. For Example, I used to listen to the songThe 3 Sunrises by U2 over and over until I could sing the high notes and found after some time that I could actually pull it off. That's definetly one of the highest {in terms of notes} songs Bono has ever done...and I was doing it as well as he was with the cans on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted June 29, 2010 Members Share Posted June 29, 2010 So true. I found that when I was younger I could shreek as high as Bon Scott, or even Bono ,and alot of the chick singers too, {like Mariah, Madonna, Sade, etc...}. What I found is the ability to sing practically anything I could hear. For Example, I used to listen to the songThe 3 Sunrises by U2 over and over until I could sing the high notes and found after some time that I could actually pull it off. That's definetly one of the highest {in terms of notes} songs Bono has ever done...and I was doing it as well as he was with the cans on... 1) Were you singing falsetto for those girl tunes?2) Did you take vocal lessons to reach those notes or was it just natural? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WaterMoc Posted July 1, 2010 Members Share Posted July 1, 2010 LOL. I had an old friend who played ukelele and some stride piano but didn't sing, who kept asking me what key I sang in. I kept explaining that it depends on the song, because melodies start and end in different places. But I could tell he didn't believe me, and would give me this doubtful look like I just didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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