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Lol, I see my name is on the membership list, but can’t remember what I had at the time. For some reason my photobucket won’t come up so I can’t post a pic of my old ‘51, but IMGUR does so I have a pic of my old Strat, mahogany-bodied HH Satin-series, And the Squier VM-P5 bass I bought last year.

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... My amp is always pointing in from the side of the stage and raised to about stomach height . I've never understood having something blowing at your knees from behind. That means it is pointed at the people's heads that are sitting on the other side of the dance flooor.

Seems like there are those who are happy, or at least willing to compromise a little (and I insist that it

I believe that when an amp is mic

... The thing that the OP didn't mention (unless I missed it) is how is the FOH sound going to be handled? What kind of system are you going through? Does the band own its own, or are they relying on whatever is at the club? Do they have their own professional sound engineer, or are you relying on the club owner's drunk, otherwise jobless cousin to make sure your AxeFX is being heard? This will be my first time mixing from stage, which is one reason I'd like to get a good stage mix, and keep the variables to a minimum. There

... I know that it is 100% possible that a band could play in this laboratory environment and sound completely authentic in any genre or venue. I know that there are genres where it wouldn't really matter that much whether it sounded good as long as it wasn't loud. But the bell curve of this is a bunch of people playing with overly processed tones that sound good in your bedroom but like {censored} in the club and a mix that is completely homogenous and democratic giving the distinct impression of karaoke. Wow... a guitarist switching from a cab to a processor/wedge causes all that, huh? If choose to do it, then you better be sure that you and the other constituents are doing it right. Good luck and godspeed. Wow... a guitarist switching from a cab to a processor/wedge causes all that, huh?

I spent money on my beautiful Twin Reverb so people could bask in its glory! So it would be a deal killer! I

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I told my buddy/band member about the no-amp-on-stage idea, and I

It would depend, but I'd probably try it. I run my Egnater direct and it will run that way without a speaker cabinet, so I would think I could get pretty close to my sound. As long as the PA would support individual mixes for everybody and was decent quality I would think it could work. No real drums would be a deal breaker for me though. I think people are getting a little carried away with this low volume stuff though. If you're a rock band, a certain amount of volume is to be expected and required. I don't think I'd be happy in a band where sounding like a rock band was discouraged. This band happens to have a frontman-gone-drummer (still sings on a headset mic), and a new guy who's a drummer-gone-frontman, and also plays rhythm guitar, so they

I did over 250 shows last year with a band that has zero amps on stage. The guitarists use processors, mostly line 6 x3 live, bass uses sansamp tech 21 bass driver, and the drummer uses electronic kit. We do have a kickass monitor system though. Each guy can have anything he wants in his mix, eq'rd, whatever effects, whatever volume, etc. Sure the band is good as far as players go, we have well over 100 years collective gigging under our belts between the four of us. Lots of working bands play fine so what? We play well together as any band that plays this much together should But what really sets this band apart is the overall sound of the band. We can blow your head off with volume both out front or on stage, but we have gotten and kept gigs also by our ability to play much quieter on stage and consequently out front than other full bands in our area. Thing about doing it this way, is that there is absolutely no competition between stage volume and p.a. Volume. What front of house hears is almost pure p.a. Mix and virtually no stage volume. Not to mention lugging around amps or cabs. We are not opposed to using amps/cabs, but we have this system so dialed in that we see doing anything else as going backwards. I've played non stop in bands for a living since 1980. Been in tons of bands big and small, jammed with hundreds of musicians, played on maybe 1000 stages. This is the best sounding band I have ever been in both on stage and out front.. It's not just me that thinks that. This band in this configuration has never played a gig yet where we weren't told by patrons, bar owners, etc that didn't tell us it was the best sounding band they have ever had. I think a significant part of that is the electronic drums too. The band sound is like a big loud crystal clear stereo cranking your favorite toons. So not only would it not be a deal breaker, it is highly recommended. The key though, it having a killer monitor system including lots of power, great monitors and a great board, etc. Without that I'd be lugging my amps again. But with it I will personally never go back when given a choice. Awesome post. We will be using an electonic drum kit, as well.

Well, this has turned out to be a very positive and encouraging thread. I just want everyone in the band to have fun, yet be successful. Maybe if y

More input needed... Could I use an amp that went direct to the board without using a speaker cab, such as a Marshall JMD-1, and foot toys to get my sounds? ... Absolutely... I should have stated no "cab", my bad... I edited my OP, thanks.

Is there such a thing as a quality closed-back wedge-shaped guitar cab?

I'd like to give that a try to be honest! Heck, I'd like to take it a step further and have everyone use IEM's. Think about load in and load out with such a system! IEMs are doable for whoever wants one. So far nobody else does. A lead guitarist is the last left to call, not by plan, it just worked out that way as we knew the others to call already.

Guys in their 50s, classic rock type stuff. No rooms off stage for an amp, just whatever processing that can be done, and a good wedge. Leader would supply additional processing if it helped. edit: "Quality" wedge, powered. Even a wedge-shaped closed back guitar amp would be doable if they's such a thing, but a wedge, and not in back facing the front.

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He did file little groves in the frets that had an effect when he trem'd his strings.

I have an enclosed trailer, NE Ohio, and haven

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