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Vito Corleone

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  1. So how hard should it have been for the defense to show those things aren’t copyrightable? It shouldn’t even be about music, per se. If a certain element of something isn’t protected under the law, it shouldn’t matter whether that element is a guitar riff or a pattern on a piece of cloth.
  2. Yes. And that testimony should include why the copyright was infringed. You really shouldn’t have to know anything about music to figure that out. If the defense wasn’t able to convince the jury that a simple drum beat isn’t infringement under the law, then they probably had bigger problems than no musicians on the jury.
  3. I don’t know that anyone with a fundamental knowledge should t be excluded. But you don’t want “experts” on the subject either. If you and I are both selected for the jury and if we come in with differing opinions on what should or shouldn’t be a copyrighted piece of music, then our bias should exclude us.
  4. I get the thinking the jury should have some musical knowledge to better understand these cases. But the flip side of that is having jurors with preconceived notions of what should constitute a protected piece of music. The are supposed to not have much knowledge and only rely on the testimony of the witnesses. It is the job of the lawyers to present testimony and evidence that explains this stuff to them.
  5. I can understand the logic behind that. As jurors, you're supposed to judge the case only on what is presented in court. Not on what the juror believe he/she may personally 'know' better than the witnesses. If you have such training and experience that could influence the jury, then you should probably be called as a witness, not be a member of the jury.
  6. Yes. That's what we were talking about. Hey...wasn't it you who started the thread a couple of weeks ago about the ruling that said only what's on sheet music is 'protected'? At least for older songs? Can you look that up again. I'd be interested to contrast that ruling to this one. Maybe the difference was that only applied to songs that were copyrighted prior to the timeframe where you could submit a recording for copyright
  7. I don't believe that is the case here. I haven't listened to the clip, but reading the article it doesn't appear that they used a sample (which would be a no brainer for infringement) and their defense was that what they used was too short to be considered stealing anything. If it's just a simple drum pattern? Hard to see how you can say that anyone 'owns' it. But if it is unique enough, I could see the argument. I haven't heard the beat in question to know.
  8. wasn't there a thread about a recent decision that seemed to pull that back and ruled that only what was on the published sheet music (i.e. lyrics and melody) was protected? Although I have to admit to being a bit confused because it sounded to me as if people here (including you) were not in favor of that ruling. I'll have to try to find that thread. It was just a couple of weeks ago, IIRC. Copyrighting a 'beat' is a tough call. Does Brian May own the 'beat' to "We Will Rock You"? Hard to argue that anyone using that beat these days wouldn't owe him a cut. Crazy thing is that pop songs these days all seem to have half-a-dozen or more people with songwriting credits. What's the big deal to tack on a couple of more to Katy's song? Although apparently the song sold/downloaded something like 13 million copies. Probably adds up to a nice little chunk of change.
  9. [ATTACH=JSON]{"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t Views:\t1 Size:\t479.7 KB ID:\t32551589","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"32551589","data-size":"full"}[/ATTACH] Those Day on the Green shows at the Oakland Coliseum were the sh*t. Went to several of those when I was a kid in the 70s Tickets were $11.
  10. Especially in this day and age, getting the crowd involved is SO important. A great front guy can work a crowd like magic. But even with my band, we've worked up a few 'bits' that are tried-and-true for us and without fail get the crowd involved and leaves them thinking they had the best time ever. Fortunately for us we don't play for the same crowds over and over so we can use the same bits repeatedly. And it just takes a few. For the most part, we play the entire set straight through with no gaps between songs, except for 2 or 3 times a set where we specifically stop to do something with the crowd. And the getting-them-to-sing-along stuff works great too. But few bands are so good, or play in environments, where just giving them a "concert" to look at/listen to is going to be enough.
  11. Yeah, I love that board. Had one since they first introduced it. Ironically, it's the first Korg board I've ever owned as I was never a big fan of their products back in the day. They always seemed to me to be kind of cheaper knock-offs of what Moog, Sequential Circuits, Roland and others were doing at the time. But there really isn't much I can't do with it.
  12. It is also one of the many classic Korg synths that lives inside my Kronos. Very cool the way they laid out the various synths so that you can program them almost as you would the originals. The virtual MS-20 is a lot of fun! [img2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"http:\/\/www.muzykuj.com\/ufiles\/test-602\/image\/korg%20kronos\/Korg%20Kronos%20(6).jpg"}[/img2]
  13. If they want to issue a polysynth, why not stop fooling around with silly pedals and do the real thing?
  14. I should have been a bit more specific. No one under 60 has cable anymore.
  15. You're showing your age. No one subscribes to Cable TV anymore.
  16. Yep. I gave up on playing bars and focused instead on private event gigs 15 years ago. We don't play as often but the gigs are almost always for revved-up audiences that want to be there and want to enjoy the music and the band makes 10-15 times what a typical bar gig pays these days. As far as "quality product" goes? Yep. I blame the venues and the musicians for letting the quality decline. It used to be if you were out for the night with your friends and you saw a "live music" sign in a club, that was a place wanted to check out. Now it means you're most likely to see 3 old guys in a corner weakly bashing out some old rock songs your parents or grandparents played when you were a kid. Might be cool for a song or two, but actually, a DJ playing stuff you like better would be more fun. Or maybe karaoke because you can probably sing about as well as those old farts anyway.
  17. You’ll get no disagreement from me. It’s just that I don’t think telling anyone this will make a difference. I saw this decline in pay begin as soon as the “weekend warrior” and “dad band” thing started happening in the 90s. All these older guys who never played professionally suddenly now had the money to buy expensive gear and got together with their friends to play for fun. It was no problem for them to play out for less so they did. And the venues were happy to hire them for less. And the quality went down as well, but the venues didn’t care as long as the bands brought their friends out. Then people started valuing “live music” less as the quality declined. Downward spiral and so here we are.
  18. When my band plays weddings, one of the services we offer is we will learn their "special dances" for them. Usually this isn't anything too special for us, but just this last weekend the bride didn't require we learn any of those songs for them (they hired a DJ to do that) but told us that her grandmother was a huge Neil Diamond fan and asked if we could play "Forever In Blue Jeans" for her as a surprise. So no problem. All of 15 minutes needed to work up that one. So middle of the set we invite the bride and her 80-something grandmother up on the stage and she is in tears leading the entire crowd of 250 or so people singing the song along with the band. And her and the bride are both in tears hugging us all and thanking us after we finish. We sometimes will run into people we played for years ago and they will tell us about some song we played for them for something special we did. I usually have no recollection whatsoever, but it was obvious very special for them. Moments like that, as corny as they are, are sometimes what live performance can be all about. Even the cheesiest cover song that I would have no desire to ever play on my own--ever--can be something very, very special for someone and we can give them a moment they will never forget and probably talk about for the rest of their lives. That's good stuff.
  19. The problem is that off all the jobs you listed? Being a musician is the only one people enjoy enough to do just for the fun of it. So invariably there will be people who will.
  20. What's "a lot"? I knew some too. But nowhere near as many as who liked VH, Guns n Roses, Bon Jovi, LZ, who did songs with a lot of chick appeal and the bands had sexy lead singers. Which is one reason why you were much more likely to see a poster of one those guitarists up in their room rather than one of Randy Rhodes.
  21. When? When he did the power ballad duet with Lita Ford? Yeah, that lasted for 5 minutes. And even then, I think they just liked the song, not the singer. Sorry, but few chicks ever dug Ozzy or Sabbath. The one Ozzy concert I went to (1990ish) was a sausage-fest. Which is one reason (not the only of course) why guitarists like Van Halen, Page, and Slash had greater "guitar hero" status than guys like Rhodes, Blackmore and Yngwie whose appeal was more limited to other musicians and male fans of those bands. Only speculation but had Rhodes only continued on with Ozzy? He'd have remained a cult hero. Had he moved on to play with Whitesnake or Bon Jovi or some such band? Probably a whole different thing.
  22. One of my all-time favorite quotes, in the original context.
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