I tried the ES system on a Taylor PS14ce-L3 (Fall LTD Grafted Walnut back and sides).It is AMAZING!!! Absolutely positively the best system i've ever tried.That's one main reason I want a Taylor.....plus I want a change in sound from my Martin.I have tried the undersaddle pickup on my Martin and it beats it times ten.My undersaddle pickup on my Martin has no knobs so I am using a Mackie EQ on it into my cyber twin and turning the gain down low as well as the trim.I keep it on a Twin Reverb setting and kick the reverb up a notch.It's good, but it is sensitive to feedback but it doesn't hum like the electric Alnico 50's single coils in my strat.All in all, I like my Martin's system, but I think Taylor has the best one out there so far.I don't know much about patent lawsuits, but I don't know if Taylor will be keeping the ES system or not, but if they do, i'm getting a Taylor with an ES system from Jim Winter.So far, I haven't heard anything about Bob Taylor and the Lace Lawsuit, but what part of the system is Taylor taking from lace?~EH