ElectricPuppy

that is one of the big reasons why some people are very scared of us Transhumanists- we actually intend to be able to DIRECTLY and PHYSICALLY change your mind in a decade or two we are tired of of hateful fearful humans runing around opressing and killing each other- so we will fix the problem at it's source- after we release the nanocloud and you breathe in the limbic upgrades- you will finally understand where we technoshamanic progressives are coming from- whether you want to or not Ah. I see. So, first allow me to don this totally fashionable tin-foil hat... That's better.

I think we've beat this enough. No one is going to change anyone's mind here.

Better yet, when is it a human being? The 64 Thousand Dollar Question. As is evident in this very thread, it depends on who you ask. SetAI will tell you it's not until the 3rd trimester. You probably believe it's at conception. Others might have other definitions or criteria. I personally believe that it's up to the parents to decide for themselves. Aren't all human beings worthy of the right to live? In most circumstances, yes. But nothing is ever black and white. What about massively dibilitating defects? Rape victims?

The bad part is... the baby doesn't have a choice. And there is the crux of it. When is it a "baby"?

It's been 12 whole minutes... somebody argue something!

It's a train wreck, but I can't turn away. please continue. Isn't it interesting that every politcal thread devolves into a religous debate?

Get with the program, or expect a New Chocolate Truth Squad at your door. Awesome, I can expect door-to-door chocolates delivery? Sweet. (haha. I'm punny.) Frankly, I'll just be glad when it's over.

Why do these threads always result in name-calling and pronouncements of intellectual and/or political superiority ... ??? What, you actually expected something different this time? Why? Every single political thread here turns into this, each and every time. It makes me wonder why you started the thread in the first place, you knew what would happen!

Voted last week. Obama got mine. I thought he ran a higher-road campaign and I hope that translates to his presidency. Also, Palin is scary.

Are you worried about your job? Not really. Already had a round of cutbacks last year, so my department is already running on the lean side. Ability to pay rent or mortgage? No worries. Your retirement / 401k? In the toilet, waiting for the rebound. Are you putting off purchases? Not really. Is it altering your income directly from music? Didn't have any to begin with. Are you worried about a prolonged recession? Somewhat, yes. And there ya go.

Originally posted by purveyor2 Les Claypool +1