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  1. I agree, bad idea. It always kind of irritates me when original bands play covers. If you can't come up with 45 minutes/1 hour of your own music, then you shouldn't be playing in front of an audience. IMO. Playing little snippets makes it even weirder.


    The snippest are a horrible idea. I would think that would definitely piss people off.

    Though I personally dont see a problem with throwing in covers, in certain situations.

    I play/sing/songwrite in a primarily original band. We have about an hours worth of original stuff, (album almost done) an hour or so of covers, and then another half hour or so of stuff we can do with guest musicians. It broadens our horizons and opens up opportunities for more/better paying gigs. We can book 9-1 gigs and hire another band or musician for 100$ for a set, or if we throw in an acoustic set, pull it off ourselves. Plus, if mixed in the set strategically a few covers (if appropriate) can keep people interested, eventually people will be singing along with your originals, sometimes without even realizing it.

  2. A venue promoting a local bands show here is extremely rare. It's usually a given that it's 100% up to the band. I have never once brought in a stack of flyers to a venue expecting THEM to hang'em up.

    Although, most venues here are very good about getting their bookings in the entertainment section of the local paper.

    There's also a free local paper that has a very up to sate entertainment section.

    The only other exceptions would be major holiday shows, national acts with local openers.

    I've been in few bands where bought our own radio adds for cd releases and such.

  3. that's pretty much how we do it. No one wants a musical education when they come see us (although we are more than capable of giving them one) and no one cares about a crazy 10 minute guitar solo. They just want to dance and that's cool with us.


    We do war pigs, it's funny to watch people flock to the stage once they realize what we're playing. Then when the 2ND guitar solo comes they start to wander away, so we cut it out of the song. I like it much better that way.

  4. Maybe try it this way instead of as a contest:

    I don't have a lot of experience or knowledge of how Open Mics work so I don't know how common this is, but the only "open mic" that I ever did participate in worked this way:

    A "Set List" was posted on the internet with the song titles and artist written from top to bottom.

    Across the top of the page were "instrument chairs" (lead guitar, rythmn guitar, bass, drums, lead vocals and keys, I think). You signed your name in the space for the instrument you wanted to play for the song that you wanted to play. I think they had a limit on the number of songs that you could sign up for. Then you had ----------amount of time to learn your parts. The day of the Open Mic you ended up on stage withthree or four fellow musicians that you had most likely never met before let alone played or rehearsed with. It was fun and nerve wracking at the same time (for me anyway). You know how critical musicians in the audience can be, well, this was playing in front of an entire audience of musicians. That was new to me. Pretty intimidating too after I heard how good some of the players were, but I think I ended up holding my own ok. Some of the combinations were better then the average band playing the bars/clubs in our area too.



    I've never heard of an open mic being done that way but that's a good idea. I know enough small time bands that would do it

  5. quick scenario breakdown:

    we play at a club next weekend. this club has a large digital sign used for advertising. the advertising that is on there is from April and May...nothing about upcoming events..

    Maybe, the only person who knew how to program the sign quit in may?


    Seriously though, a digital sign? That has got to be so easy to change. Who knows how much business they've lost over something I can't see taking more than 5 minutes. Have you called and asked them to change it? Not that you should have to..

  6. I guess the other way to look at this is thank the stars that SOMEONE has the balls to produce events or it would be a boring world. These things take place every day somewhere in the country so obviously it's not that difficult. However, you need to really plan it out very carefully and consider every possible scenario or problem. Get a team of RELIABLE people to help you because you do not want to attempt this solo. I think once you've done a few, it takes on a pattern that you can more easily manage. First couple are a bitch.


    Just like gigs.

  7. Does your entire house have up to date 3 prong outlets? And even if it does, it is possible some or all of them are not truely grounded. Do you know your house was built? Was the electrical properly inspected? You could go buy a tool to check, or shut off power and check for your self. My guitar player was having issues with noise in his home studio. I told him to check his outlets, turned out about half of his house had false 3 prong outlets. He had to pound a ground rod into the ground outside and wire it to his studio. Even then he still has to isolate certain equipment on different breakers to avoid noise.

  8. Work aside, it's a lot of monetary output to provide reinforcement, insurance, advertising, venue, etc. for an event like this where the targeted audience is pretty much just other musicians and no tangible results. If I were to attempt something like this I would find a bar with sound and lights and try and get an open Sunday and basically offer them a show to sell food and booze at, allowing you to produce the show you want, however unprofitable it may be. Loosely tie it to a good cause and raise a few bucks while you're at it.

    Yes. MAke it as easy as possible.

  9. Find someone who has experience at this and talk to them. If by the time they have informed you of all the details, you're still not deterred, you might try a small event to get your feet wet. I've done small events and to do it right is a huge undertaking. The crowd might have fun but you will be a nervous f********* wreck by the time it's over.

    I'd be a nervous wreck 2 weeks into planning.

    He'll I was nervous posting this thread.

  10. I've been going to music festivals my whole life, but never lived anywhere that hosted one. So I had an idea today inspired by some of these festivals.


    Boise's music scene often puts bands/musicians at odds with each other and there's just flat out no musicians community. So as a way to let local musicians interact, hold a "band scramble". Individuals or bands enter, but individually fill out entry forms with instruments played, maybe not much else. Then new bands are formed somewhat randomly (with proper arrangements of course) and given x amount of time to put together a song, or set. Winner gets $ or some sort of diviable prize, but the real intention, or purpose, especially the first time around would be to create a network and community, and give a variety of musicians a chance (if they're interested) to do something different. Many things could be taught and learned.


    So at this point I realistically could start small, put together 5, 6 or more bands plus individual musicians, get a venue, and see what happens, and go from there. Of course I understand theres much more involved than what I've mentioned, and many things I haven't considered yet. just an idea at this point, I'm just curious if any has ever heard of or been involved in this type of thing and has any advice. Is this something worth pursuing? Am I crazy?

  11. Around here there's allot of self proclaimed "singers" (almost always girls singing country pop) that perform at fairs and festivals and the like with karaoke CDs backing them. The funny thing to me is the contrast of quality and sound quality. Some hot chick mumbling into an sm58 while the background is a fully mixed fully professional recording, with backup harmonys louder and better than the human. To try and compensate the soundguy just cranks the mic so the vocals are just booming until she stops singing for the "fiddle" solo. Very common and very humorus but sad.

  12. Here's a song that we were thinking of working out just for fun... probably won't ever play it at a show, unless it's for a soundcheck.



    Video wouldnt work for me. (might just be because I'm on an iPod)

    But when it took me to YouTube I noticed you have a bunch of videos from the fiddle festival in weiser.

    Do you go?

    I've been going 27 years, getting ready for my 28th.

    This will be my first year with my own upright.

  13. My current band uses backing tracks for about 90% of our songs; keys, hand percussion and pads to fill out, not to dominate our sound.

    I have to tell you that the bolded part above is only as true as the performer lets it be. If the drummer can't play slightly up or back of the click, ior the band can't deliver the performance with energy, you'll sound like a band chained to one, but aside from needing to stick to the same arrangement, I really can't see how a CAPABLE band is any more or less in control of their performance by playing to a click or with tracks by definition.

    Clicks and tracks are simply other tools available to a performer; it's all about how they get used that tells the tale.


    Just curious, what happens if there's a stumble, or someone accidentally skips a measure or something?

    Seems like that could be disaster.

    Mistakes will happen, no matter how much practice, so how do you recover smoothly?

  14. I played in a band a few years ago that was somewhat considered hip-hop, and we had allot of music that was. Guitar drums bass keys and an mc. We would often get called to play these hip-hop shows where every other performer of the night was just a guy with a cd, sometimes a player.(before everyone had an iPod)

    One time some "mC"s were talkin {censored} on stage during their performance because they saw our gear backlined taking up stage room. Then halfway through their first song their cd starts skipping and they start over. When they got to that same point it happened again.


    Some guys were cool too and would have us back them on the fly.

  15. I didn't realize this was so common but I guess it makes sense.

    I've seen people use drum machines and vocal harmonizers locally but I can't say I've ever seen local acts using backing tracks. Some of the national acts seem likely though.


    But still, to have players and keyboards that aren't even plugged in?

    And I'm sure those guys get paid, would it be a equal cut?

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