I bought a Carlos model 200 12 String in a Pawn Shop in TX in the late 70's - still have it and am about to do a minor restoration - the shell is in good condition, but the tuning pegs have been a problem for years, so I am going to put some quality pegs on - it always has had a great sound. I think I paid $50 for it - there was also a 6 string - should have bought it too maybe.....