hethaerto4

Keka, I'm sorry, but I honestly have no input for you. If your mix was built upon real elements recorded with a microphone played by real people, then I could give you some feedback. Not that the genre you subscribe to is not genuine, it's just that I really don't get it. I listened twice to your song, or mix, but I couldn't get into it. Sorry, Allen

Cool. Good luck.

Originally posted by nosamiam Yes! Just the kind of stuff I was looking for. Thanks! I shouldn't have too much trouble widening the drums. I've got a lot of room to pan. The guitar is actually a 12-string (which our player uses exclusively) going into a Laney tube amp, close-miked with a 57. The spring reverb is the one on the amp. He tends to use it a lot (the reverb) during rehearsal and gigs. His background is in garage and if I asked him, I imagine he'd say its part of his signature sound. Should we record him dry, do you think, adding reverb later? Or maybe even record direct (he hates the idea) and then re-amp the track to try to convince him that maybe less works better than more? I record drums with two overheads, an Audix i5 on snare, and an Audix D6 on kick. I try to record in a treated room as well. I hate room sound on drums. Room sound and ambience are two different things. The over heads will give you some ambience, taking away the upfront immediacy. Make sure the dude can tune his kit. Polish the cymbals so they'll ring instead of clang. Definitely keep recording the amp with the 57. Get the mic as close as possible to the outer edge of the speaker. With headphones on, have him play while you slightly adjust the mic until you like the tone. You're going to need tons of olume to get it sounding strong and full, in my opinion. It is a tube amp, and tube amps don't come alive until you push them really hard. The original tone in your recording sounded very thin. He probably has his EQ scooped. You'll need to adjust his EQ while he plays. You'll need lots of midrange, and not very much bottom. I tend to cut the {censored} out of the top end, but that's my taste. Sometimes guitarists refuse to kill the reverb completely, but a good compromise is to set it about 30%. That way it's there, but not too obvious. You've got a strong bass guitar tone, so I wouldn't change too much there except cutting the midrange to make room for everything else. Do you guys have a better song with some dynamix and maybe even some singing? I'm glad to see your desire to learn.

Originally posted by nosamiam My band got asked to be on local compilation CD, so we picked one of our more "throwaway" songs and recorded it at home. This is my first attempt at tracking/mixing and I was hoping to get some feedback. What do you all think? What does it need? http://www.theheliumtapes.com/sounds/Caligula.mp3 Maybe you could use a different song. Compilation CD's are useful for free promotion, so you should use a song that at least YOU the mixer actually like, so that you will work very hard to get it sounding good, instead of "good 'nough". You should work harder to get a wider sounding drum kit of which everything is audible.. I heard the snare in the left speaker, and a cymbal in the right. That's all I heard for drums. The lead guitar played constantly regardless of what the song was doing, even right through those chimes (which sounded nice. The chimes, that is). The bass guitar was the loudest instrument, and that's wrong. EQ the loud-ass midrange down and make it work for you. The lead guitar is loaded with cheap spring reverb. Is this dude using a Line 6 amp? I did like your use of space, though. You had everything in it's own little quadrant, and that's very good. Get back to work, and report back.

Originally posted by kurdy I posted this in the Recording Forum, but I didn't get much of a response. I'm thinking it was so great that nobody knew what advice to give , or so bad that it was beyond any advice that could help it. I have sort of a beginners set-up, not "state-of-the-art" by any means, but I would like to make the most out of the limited gear I do have. Anyway, here's my original post: I've been involved with home recording/mixing for sometime and although I have improved somewhat, I'm never completely satisfied with the result. My goal is to one day be able to make recordings that sound somewhat professional, though I realize I still have a ways to go, which can be quite frustrating, artistically. Anyway, I could really use some opinions on a recording/mix I just did. Please let me know what you think. http://www.soundclick.com/artist/7/keithdominique_music.htm Also, apologies for posting this in a separate thread. I'm new to this forum, and didn't see the dedicated thread at the top of the page. If I could request that the moderator delete my previous thread, it would be appreciated. It's a bit embarrassing. I liked the song, but I'm not sure I liked the EXECUTION of the song. The dude's voice irritated me, though he did sing with heart. I would like the song more, but it seems to have a plastic undertone that grates at me.

Originally posted by dethmetalanimal the local guitar shop around here just started stocking alot of behringers stuff. i went in today and checked a good bit of it out, i came home with the GDI 21. it's a effects pedal/DI box. basically a tech 21 samsamp clone. i recorded this direct. it's not perfect but it'll be great for late night recordings, and that's what i got it for. Transylvania I used to own the GT2 by Tech 21. I would say that you used way too much gain, at least for the GT2. Does the Behringer RIP-OFF! have the secret gain switch position?

Originally posted by DonaldDemon Great thrad by the way. Here are 3 songs we have almost finished. Actually "Human tornado" was done yers ago and it is what it is at this point so no comments needed. The other two are almost done but are not coming out right. They aren't our best songs so we did these first before the other songs on the eventual album. Problem #1 is the "engineer" is a kid who doesn't know jack {censored} and is unreliable. So we are finishing the first 4 songs and then moving on to a different studio. My main complaint is that it is not capturing the true energy of the songs. I attribute this to the mix for the most part. Our goal is to make a decent album to sell at shows and whatever though I know we cannot afford a professional sonding album. i just want the emotions and essence of the song to be captured. Please listen and comment on anything you want. It will all be appreciated! Cheap Sedated Hams I seriously think your guys should change your band name to :"The Human Tornado". That fits your sound so much better that "Cheap Sedated Hams". Great songs. Very original style, at least to my ears. The myspace media player is garbage. Any other place we can hear your songs?

Originally posted by gsHarmony I just started using an orchestral sample library and wanted some opinions on a short little demo I did to get myself familiar with it. http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~gstitt/fullorchestra.mp3 I basically just used a simple theme and then tried out different orchestrations. I've never had to automate midi volume so much until I started using this library. It really takes a lot of work to sound close to realistic. I was curious to hear how the mix sounds on everyone else's speakers. I think the piano could probably use a little more reverb to help push it back a little. Feel free to comment on the mix, the music, or whatever. Thanks The drums sounded great! The strings sounded dull in contrast with the rest of the mix. The strings being the dominate element should be more commanding, a little brighter. I guess them being samples or whatnot, dynamix are difficult to fake. Nice music. Did I say how much I liked the drums?

ProducerNate, It's rare that I listen to a recording on this or many other recording forums where I actually like the drum sound. Most people seem to put the drums in the most LIVE room they've got available, throw up one cheap condensor as far away from the kit as possible, and call it good. This yields room sound that is louder than the actual kit, and that frickin pisses me off! Drums are my favorite element in rock music. Your drums sound pretty good. I'm just happy that I'm not listening to the room instead of the kit. So thanx! Actually, the drums could use some work, but at least the basic recording is workable. Was that enough about drums? I really liked the electric keyboard tones. The singer's track needs some work, too. It's lacking definition and presence. Maybe it's the singer that needs some presence? I have difficulty with the lead vocal myself, so maybe somebody else could offer some advice?

Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe I like wide acoustics too.. especially when you have a really stripped down mix like that, with only a few elements. IMO, it was just a bit TOO wide though... but that's what comes down to personal preferences. I certainly had zero beefs with the overall guitar tone. Nice job.

Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe hethaerto4, that was a nice recording. I've always liked that song. Cool guitar tone too... but IMO, it's a bit "wide" on the stereo. Maybe pull that stereo delay in a little tighter? IOW, I'd try a little shorter delay time to narrow it a wee bit. But the tones are good and the mix balance sounds really good. Nicely done! Thanx, Phil. Yeah, it seems I'm the only one who digs that wide stereo acoustic guitar. Myabe I should've used a central heavy acoustic track and supplemented with the stereo trax. The song's no longer on my hard drive. Maybe next time.

Check out this nice recording of a father and daughter duet. This is the link