Members Pott Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 How to tell the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted June 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Pott How to tell the difference? You can tell by feel, but I guess if you've only ever played one type, I guess you wouldn't know the difference. Is the back of your Charvel neck shiny and glossy like glass? Does it feel like it's been painted over with a clear glossy finish? If it's oiled, it will feel like a freshly sanded peice of wood with no finish on it. A glossy, lacquered neck can sometimes feel a little sticky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pott Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 It doesn't feel sticky whatsoever. It could be bare wood for all I know by the color but the substance is different. I'd say oiled neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 The neck on my Model 3 was an oiled, satin finish. Definitely not glossy.The Model 5 neck was, of course, painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koz Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Mazi Bee My Charvel GAS is now at an all time high. Mazi Bee...I thought you rocked before...I loved your NYC pics and your MIJ strats...but now my opinion of you has jumped to RAWK!!!! The model series Charvels are tanks...I have 3...a model 1 and two model 1a's (GAS overtook me and I got two of them off of eBay in 3 weeks). As you now know, the model 1 is a single pup guitar with a vintage trem and the 1a is a strat copy except the input jack is on the edge of the guitar rather than on the top. My 1a has a vintage trem...I've never seen a 1a with a Kahler. BowerR64's Charvel looks like a Model 2 to me. The model 2 is the same as a model 1, but with the locking trem (his is a JT6 trem). It might have a maple neck swapped onto her, but I do know that a few of the model guitars had a "maple" version of them. The model 4, for example, came from the factory with a rosewood board, but the 4M came with the maple board. Depending on the year of whatever Charvel you get, your locking trem might be a Kahler. I'm pretty sure they switched to the JT6 in 1987-88. I'm also pretty sure that the model 5 and 6 were neckthroughs while the rest were bolt-ons. Prices right now on eBay, to me, seem on the low side right now for the model series...but if you see one that you want to grab, make sure what model guitar you are getting. Also, none of these guitars were made in the USA, even though the Charvel neckplate had a Fort Worth Texas address on them. The San Dimas Charvels are US made, but you'll pay for it. RAWK on Dude!!! Hope I helped some.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted June 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Koz Mazi Bee...I thought you rocked before...I loved your NYC pics and your MIJ strats...but now my opinion of you has jumped to RAWK!!!! The model series Charvels are tanks...I have 3...a model 1 and two model 1a's (GAS overtook me and I got two of them off of eBay in 3 weeks). As you now know, the model 1 is a single pup guitar with a vintage trem and the 1a is a strat copy except the input jack is on the edge of the guitar rather than on the top. My 1a has a vintage trem...I've never seen a 1a with a Kahler. BowerR64's Charvel looks like a Model 2 to me. The model 2 is the same as a model 1, but with the locking trem (his is a JT6 trem). It might have a maple neck swapped onto her, but I do know that a few of the model guitars had a "maple" version of them. The model 4, for example, came from the factory with a rosewood board, but the 4M came with the maple board. Depending on the year of whatever Charvel you get, your locking trem might be a Kahler. I'm pretty sure they switched to the JT6 in 1987-88. I'm also pretty sure that the model 5 and 6 were neckthroughs while the rest were bolt-ons. Prices right now on eBay, to me, seem on the low side right now for the model series...but if you see one that you want to grab, make sure what model guitar you are getting. Also, none of these guitars were made in the USA, even though the Charvel neckplate had a Fort Worth Texas address on them. The San Dimas Charvels are US made, but you'll pay for it. RAWK on Dude!!! Hope I helped some.... Thanks Koz! It's obvious that you have a great deal of RAWK about you as well! So, do I really have to ask? PICS??? Everybody that has a Charvel, please post PICS dammit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Mazi Bee Everybody that has a Charvel, please post PICS dammit!! You asked for it. This is me with my Model 5 back in 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pott Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Koz Mazi Bee...I thought you rocked before...I loved your NYC pics and your MIJ strats...but now my opinion of you has jumped to RAWK!!!! The model series Charvels are tanks...I have 3...a model 1 and two model 1a's (GAS overtook me and I got two of them off of eBay in 3 weeks). As you now know, the model 1 is a single pup guitar with a vintage trem and the 1a is a strat copy except the input jack is on the edge of the guitar rather than on the top. My 1a has a vintage trem...I've never seen a 1a with a Kahler.BowerR64's Charvel looks like a Model 2 to me. The model 2 is the same as a model 1, but with the locking trem (his is a JT6 trem). It might have a maple neck swapped onto her, but I do know that a few of the model guitars had a "maple" version of them. The model 4, for example, came from the factory with a rosewood board, but the 4M came with the maple board.Depending on the year of whatever Charvel you get, your locking trem might be a Kahler. I'm pretty sure they switched to the JT6 in 1987-88. I'm also pretty sure that the model 5 and 6 were neckthroughs while the rest were bolt-ons.Prices right now on eBay, to me, seem on the low side right now for the model series...but if you see one that you want to grab, make sure what model guitar you are getting. Also, none of these guitars were made in the USA, even though the Charvel neckplate had a Fort Worth Texas address on them. The San Dimas Charvels are US made, but you'll pay for it.RAWK on Dude!!! Hope I helped some.... BowerR64's guitar has something else than a JT6. The JT6 has the fine tuners included on the locking screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koz Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Pott BowerR64's guitar has something else than a JT6. The JT6 has the fine tuners included on the locking screws. Good call!! I just took a quick glance at it and didn't see the fine tuners on the top...perhaps its an OFR? The Jackson/Charvel forum has a thread with pics of all of the trems used on Jackson/Charvel guitars...I'd link it, but I do believe you have to be a member to see the threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koz Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Mazi Bee Thanks Koz! It's obvious that you have a great deal of RAWK about you as well! So, do I really have to ask? PICS??? Everybody that has a Charvel, please post PICS dammit!! I'll take some tonight and post them...not going to be to exciting though...just 3 red model 1 and 1a guitars. BTW, you mentioned wanting more model guitars, or necks? I might part with one of the 1a's for cheap...they are players though and nicked up...anyway...I'll post pics of my family of Jackson/Charvels later...this would probably be a good time to submit an application to the Mazi Bee militia, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted June 16, 2005 Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 its a model one i got it on e-bay last summer for $150. and i put an edge and a kahler flip locks. This is how i got it with the case. I tried for about 3 months to get one and you guys kept out bidding me. Finaly this one came up and its the sxact one i wanted and you guys were nice and let me have it. Thank you so much. Now i have the sxact same guitar my friend has, he won in 1988 or 89 from some ratt charvel give away thing. I wanted to put an EMG in it and the edge so i pretty much just wanted the body and neck anyway. I got damn lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted June 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2005 Originally posted by Koz I'll take some tonight and post them...not going to be to exciting though...just 3 red model 1 and 1a guitars. BTW, you mentioned wanting more model guitars, or necks? I might part with one of the 1a's for cheap...they are players though and nicked up...anyway...I'll post pics of my family of Jackson/Charvels later...this would probably be a good time to submit an application to the Mazi Bee militia, huh? I'm mainly looking for necks now, but definately show me the 1a, and let me know more about it, I might be interested! The main one I'm gassing for is a Model 6. A killer white one just ended on ebay for $400. And welcome to the Militia! We will add your RAWK to our own and it will no doubt help us to be unstoppable!! ROCK ON Koz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted June 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 17, 2005 bump for more Charvel pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 335clone Posted June 17, 2005 Members Share Posted June 17, 2005 So Model 1's are single humbucker, maple fretboard and Model 2's are single HB with rosewood fretboard? I have a blood red, rosewood board, kahler trem, with a JBJ HB. I took the neck off last night and it is stamped 2D. Any idea what the DE stands for? looks like this one I was thinking of adding neck and middle pups and a 5 way once I get the last missing fine tuner for the Kahler. Is this a good idea, or should I just leave it as is? Not a bad score for $35 w/original tweed case, though one of the trem posts is pulled up a little and the trem seems a little too close to the neck since it is hard up against the neck side of the trem cavity. I guess I'll have to have some work done on it if I want to ever be able to pull up on the trem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pott Posted June 17, 2005 Members Share Posted June 17, 2005 Model 1 had a vintage trem and a choice of rosewood and maple fingerboard. Model 2 were model 1s with a locking Trem: Kahler fulcrum in 1986 and JT6 the following years (87 and 88). I think they lost the maple option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 335clone Posted June 17, 2005 Members Share Posted June 17, 2005 Well I guess that makes mine an '86 Model 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted February 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 Bump cuz there's good info in this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators The Eristic Posted February 28, 2006 Moderators Share Posted February 28, 2006 All are strat body (basically P-style for the basses) basswood, no pickguard, bolt-on, unbound rw board w/ dots, 22 frets unless otherwise noted. Model 1 1: single H, maple board, vintage trem 1A: S-S-S, pickguard, maple board, vintage trem 1B: single P, maple board, poplar body 1C: S-S-H, vintage trem, RARE Model 2 2: single H, floyd or Kahler 2B: P-J, blend pot, poplar body Model 3 - '86 makes will have pickguards. 3: S-S-H, 5-way switch, floyd copy or Kahler 3A: H-H, 5-way, floyd copy or Kahler 3B: ~7/8 P body, neck-through, poplar body, P-J, active electronics, 3-way toggle 3DR: Dinky (~7/8 strat), slanted S-H, reverse headstock, floyd copy Model 4 4: S-S-H, 3 x 2-way mini-toggles, JE-1200 active electronics (three knobs), rw board, sharks, floyd 4B: same as 3B, but bolt-on 4M: same as above but MAPLE board and dots, RARE Model 5 - All have ~7/8 strat bodies and 24 frets, just like Soloists. 5: H-H, 5-way, active electronics, neck-through, poplar body, floyd or Kahler 5A: same as above, but single H, minus active electronics, floyd only 5FX: same as above, but slanted S-H, single vol, 3-way toggle, floyd only Model 6 - Same as Model 5. 6: S-S-H, active electronics, 3 x 2-way mini-toggles, neck-through, poplar body, bound neck, sharks Model 7 7: S-S, 3-way blade, BOUND TELE-style, ash body, maple board, reverse headstock, 6-saddle tele bridge, uncommon Model 8 - These are as rare as they get! 8: Dinky, S-S-S, 5-way, active electronics, telecaster bass-style pickguard, reverse color-matched headstock 8M: same as above, but maple fretboard Model 88 - Limited edition of 1000. 88: Dinky, single SLANTED hum, figured african mahogany body, reverse headstock, sharks, floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stanbog Posted February 28, 2006 Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 not original 80's Charvel and not pointy, but still a 1995 Jackson custom shop San Dimas Reissue II: waiting to get it towards beginning of next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted February 28, 2006 Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 San Dimas Reissue: And I also bought a vintage San Dimas neck recently which is going on a partsocaster. Beautiful, it's figured and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted February 28, 2006 Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 not a Model series, and definitely not stock, but here's mine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kentuckyklira Posted February 28, 2006 Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 Originally posted by guitarslinger Model 375 - Scahller Floyd Rose, J-90c, 2 single coils, dot inlays, toothpaste logo, alder or basswood??? EDIT, MAZI, make sure you like that weird Jackson trem before you buy it. I wildly prefer the Schaller to it. The Jackson trem is the reason I sold my neck thru Charvel. Worst Floyd Rose clone ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kentuckyklira Posted February 28, 2006 Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 A Charvel I still own and love to play, That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metalheadUK Posted February 28, 2006 Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 Mine: Model 1 fitted with Kahler: 475 deluxe: Model 5 WIP project: Model 1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted February 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2006 Originally posted by The Eristic Model 44: S-S-H, 3 x 2-way mini-toggles, JE-1200 active electronics (three knobs), rw board, sharks, floyd4B: same as 3B, but bolt-on4M: same as above but MAPLE board and dots, RARE There is also a Model 4 that comes with pearl dots instead of sharkfins. I have two necks like that. The pearl dots are much nicer than the plain white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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