Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 And I mean like 80's metal shred. Cos apperantely the guy that builds my guitar makes it lighter by making it semihollow. He also said he'll add an F-hole, sounds neat eh? Floyd Rose + 24 frets + F hole... Tell me how the hollowness affects the tone anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elk Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 I'd think that the note would resonate and hang over from when you stopped playing making all the notes sound like they are overlapped. Like sweep picking and not muting the note after you play. I've never tried this, just my thought on what would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yngtchie Blacksteen Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 I use a Thinline Tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 I use a Thinline Tele. Well mine is more or less that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twofoolsaminute Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Works just fine,but will feedback easier in some high-gain situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Works just fine,but will feedback easier in some high-gain situations. I love feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metallica_00 Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 It probably depends how much "hollowness" he is putting in. Just a little bit of chambering vs. something like a 335 is pretty different. My guess is that it would have a bit less immediate attack. Maybe ask the luthier? After all he should know better than anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 It probably depends how much "hollowness" he is putting in. Just a little bit of chambering vs. something like a 335 is pretty different. My guess is that it would have a bit less immediate attack. Maybe ask the luthier? After all he should know better than anyone! Well. I am sure the upper half of the thing is chambered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 hollow is fine, just leave the F hole out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Killress Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 For me, the thought of a Floyd and an F-hole is But that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCray Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 For me, the thought of a Floyd and an F-hole is But that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 's mel gibson Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Semi hollows are more of a novelty with a plank of wood going through the body from the neck to the rear strap button. My ES 335 feeds back a bit with the air rushing in and out of the F holes but I don't think the hollow wings contribute that much to the tone. Unplugged, it's as loud as a Les Paul. And it's not a light weight either. The 69 and 72 Tele Thinlines MIM RI's with their hollowed upper wing and F hole are just a total novelty. The F hole does nothing for the tone. But it seems to make them seem lighter. I got them both and also a US Tele w/bigsby and an Esquier. They all sound different though.My Lucille has no F holes and I think it's heavier in weight. It feeds back like a solid body guitar. You have to want it to. I have no problem shredding 80's style with them. A full hollow body like an ES 330 is totally different. Feed back is an issue. The thing is, I just love playing mine unplugged. Same with my Ric 330. They're not quite as loud as a regular acoustic but a whole lot louder than a solid body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jura Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Semi hollows are more of a novelty with a plank of wood going through the body from the neck to the rear strap button. My ES 335 feeds back a bit with the air rushing in and out of the F holes but I don't think the hollow wings contribute that much to the tone. Unplugged, it's as loud as a Les Paul. And it's not a light weight either. The 69 and 72 Tele Thinlines MIM RI's with their hollowed upper wing and F hole are just a total novelty. The F hole does nothing for the tone. But it seems to make them seem lighter. I got them both and also a US Tele w/bigsby and an Esquier. They all sound different though.My Lucille has no F holes and I think it's heavier in weight. It feeds back like a solid body guitar. You have to want it to.I have no problem shredding 80's style with them.A full hollow body like an ES 330 is totally different. Feed back is an issue. The thing is, I just love playing mine unplugged. Same with my Ric 330. They're not quite as loud as a regular acoustic but a whole lot louder than a solid body. I've played a lot of Les Pauls, but non of them was louder unplugged than my 335, not even close.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 17, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 Semi hollows are more of a novelty with a plank of wood going through the body from the neck to the rear strap button. My ES 335 feeds back a bit with the air rushing in and out of the F holes but I don't think the hollow wings contribute that much to the tone. Unplugged, it's as loud as a Les Paul. And it's not a light weight either. The 69 and 72 Tele Thinlines MIM RI's with their hollowed upper wing and F hole are just a total novelty. The F hole does nothing for the tone. But it seems to make them seem lighter. I got them both and also a US Tele w/bigsby and an Esquier. They all sound different though.My Lucille has no F holes and I think it's heavier in weight. It feeds back like a solid body guitar. You have to want it to.I have no problem shredding 80's style with them.A full hollow body like an ES 330 is totally different. Feed back is an issue. The thing is, I just love playing mine unplugged. Same with my Ric 330. They're not quite as loud as a regular acoustic but a whole lot louder than a solid body. Wow...I am having a hard time believing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 It will be like any other shredder guitar--just lighter. Tell him not to put the f-hole in the top if you'd rather not have it. Lots of thinlines do not have holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raycer Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 [YOUTUBE]cy6Fu5qDbZo[/YOUTUBE] not metal, but close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted August 17, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 It will be like any other shredder guitar--just lighter. Tell him not to put the f-hole in the top if you'd rather not have it. Lots of thinlines do not have holes. Actually I really like the idea of Floyd Rose + F hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 In my experience a ES-335 style semi-hollowbody can work just fine for any style. Of course, they are in their element on the more bluesier/jazzier styles though. What the semi-hollowbody construction does to the tone compared to a solid body is wider dynamic range and tone. They respond better to picking softer or harder than a Les Paul for example and IMO the tone is not as focused. I've also got a regular electric sized fully hollow guitar where the only holes are in the back resonator plate. In this one you get some of the wider dynamics but the tone is somewhere between a full semi and a solidbody, without the possible feedback issues of a full hollowbody. I find it's easier to get controlled feedback with some sort of chambering in the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 Leave the f-hole out. I'd avoid the chambering all together if it were my guitar, but what the heck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Chen Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 Semi hollows are more of a novelty with a plank of wood going through the body from the neck to the rear strap button. My ES 335 feeds back a bit with the air rushing in and out of the F holes but I don't think the hollow wings contribute that much to the tone. Unplugged, it's as loud as a Les Paul. And it's not a light weight either. The 69 and 72 Tele Thinlines MIM RI's with their hollowed upper wing and F hole are just a total novelty. The F hole does nothing for the tone. But it seems to make them seem lighter. I got them both and also a US Tele w/bigsby and an Esquier. They all sound different though.My Lucille has no F holes and I think it's heavier in weight. It feeds back like a solid body guitar. You have to want it to.I have no problem shredding 80's style with them.A full hollow body like an ES 330 is totally different. Feed back is an issue. The thing is, I just love playing mine unplugged. Same with my Ric 330. They're not quite as loud as a regular acoustic but a whole lot louder than a solid body. I would disagree that semi hollow's are a novelty. First off, when we're speaking of a semi hollow, there are 2 construction methods. A chabered solid body (like Tele thinline) which reacts much more like a solid body versus the traditional construction method of bent side glued to a solid core (like a 335). All the following comments refer to 335 style construction. In addition to having a different attack transient in my opinion (not as immediate and "spiky" as a solid body) they actually resonate versus a full solid body. Additionally, the low end on pretty much every hollow body I've played has been much rounder compared to the tighter low end of a solid body. You will be able to feel the body vibrating to the point of actual air being blown out of your f-hole when playing at high volumes and hitting resonant frequencies (hence the potential feedback issue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A_Gitarman Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 It doesn't have the most shred-friendly neck & is a tad cramped in the highest frets, but my Kramer fits the bill just fine otherwise: As has already been pointed out, the attack is a little subtler the tone a little rounder on a semi-hollow as opposed to a solid body. They also (typically) resonate more. When I got this particular guitar, it had a problem where the pickups were amplifying the sound of the trem springs vibrating sympathetically with certain frequencies due to the extra resonance created by the semi-hollow body; sounded almost like extra reverb, but only on certain notes . I was able to dampen the springs by adding some foam underneath them and all has been fine since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triestobeat Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 at the start when you said semi hollow, i somehow thought gibson es-333/335, but yeah, that guitar sounds just great. do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Jason Jhomes Posted June 29, 2020 Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 I took a 1958 harmony stratotone and gutted it (carefully extracting the gold foil pickup for another project). I handmade a pickguard and put in a single bridge EMG (passive) and single volume and that's it. For those who may not know, harmony in 1950s was an all U.S made company that made high quality guitars right alongside Gibson and fender. The designs were a little silly but the quality was high, mine has rectangle pearl inlays and full body and neck binding, it's a beauty. The harmony stratotone is semi-hollow with no sound hole and very similar to a flat top Les Paul style. It's odd features include a NON V shaped neck (neck and string spacing remain the same from tip to toe), a wooden bridge, and only 20 frets. The action is as good as it gets, looks like it's touching but no buzz even unplugged. Yes you can absolutely shred on a hollowbody, if you are good at controlling feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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