Members diceman1000 Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 CONSTRUCTION Bolt-onBODY American basswood w/ quilted maple topNECK Maple 3pc, uneven ''C'' ShapeNECK WIDTH 1F : 41.5mm / 24F : 56mmNECK THICKNESS 1F : 20.5mm / 12F : 22mmFINGERBOARD Bird's eye maple, 12'' Radius(305mm)FRET 24 / Medium (2.3mm)INLAY ''NZ'' Logo w/ Black DotTUNER Sperzel trim-lokSCALE 25 1/2'' (648mm)NUT BoneBRIDGE TonePros Lic. Locking C-TPFP bridge w /string thru bodyPICKUP Seymour Duncan Zebra '59 RP & Custom Custom (H-H)CONTROL 1vol, 1toggle (coil split), 3way LeverPICKUP SWITCHING 2-Way Toggle S/W DownPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : Bridge2-Way Toggle S/W DownPosition1 : Front Coil of NeckPosition2 : Front Coil of Neck & Rear Coil of BridgePosition3 : Rear Coil of BridgeHARDWARE CR (Chrome)UNIQUE FEATURE 2-Way Toggle S/W DownPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : Bridge2-Way Toggle S/W DownPosition1 : Front Coil of NeckPosition2 : Front Coil of Neck & Rear Coil of BridgePosition3 : Rear Coil of BridgeBODY Swamp ashNECK Bird's eye maple, ''C'' ShapeNECK WIDTH 1F : 43mm / 21F : 56mmNECK THICKNESS 1F : 21mm / 12F : 23mmFINGERBOARD Bird's eye maple, 9.5'' Radius(240mm)FRET 21 / Vintage (2.0mm)INLAY Black DotTUNER Self lockingSCALE 25 1/2'' (648mm)NUT Graph Tech Trem NutBRIDGE CFA-IIIPICKUP BBLP(Rusty)/EG5B(Alnico)/BBLP(Rusty) (H-S-H)CONTROL 1vol, 1tone, 5way s/wPICKUP SWITCHING 5-PositionPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & MiddlePosition3 : MiddlePosition4 : Middle & BridgePosition5 : BridgeHARDWARE RS (Rusty Silver)UNIQUE FEATURE 5-PositionPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & MiddlePosition3 : MiddlePosition4 : Middle & BridgePosition5 : BridgeCONSTRUCTION Set-inBODY Mahogany w/ flamed maple top w/ Natural BindingNECK Maple 3pc, Modern ''C'' ShapeNECK WIDTH 1F : 43mm / 24F : 56mmNECK THICKNESS 1F : 19.5mm / 12F : 21.5mmFINGERBOARD Rosewood, 12'' Radius(305mm)FRET 24 / Large (2.7mm)INLAY 'V'' Shape Gray PearlTUNER LockingSCALE 25 1/2'' (648mm)NUT GraphiteBRIDGE TonePros Lic. Locking bridge (C-TPFP) w /string thru bodyPICKUP Seymour Duncan SH1('59) & SH4(JB) (H-H)CONTROL 1vol, 1tone (w/ push pull), 3way togglePICKUP SWITCHING Coil Tap Push DownPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : BridgeCoil Tap Pull UpPosition1 : Front Coil of NeckPosition2 : Front Coil of Neck & Rear Coil of BridgePosition3 : Rear Coil of BridgeHARDWARE BN (Black Nickel)UNIQUE FEATURE Coil Tap Push DownPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : BridgeCoil Tap Pull UpPosition1 : Front Coil of NeckPosition2 : Front Coil of Neck & Rear Coil of BridgePosition3 : Rear Coil of BridgeCONSTRUCTION Thru-neckBODY MahoganyNECK Maple/Walnut 5pc, Modern ''U'' ShapeNECK WIDTH 1F : 43mm / 24F : 56mmNECK THICKNESS 1F : 19mm / 12F : 21mmFINGERBOARD Rosewood, 15 3/4'' Radius(400mm)FRET 24 / Jumbo (2.9mm)INLAY White DotTUNER Die castSCALE 25 1/2'' (648mm)NUT Locking Nut w/ Retainer BarBRIDGE Double locking-IIPICKUP EMG 81/85 (H-H)CONTROL 1vol, 1tone, 3way s/wPICKUP SWITCHING 3-PositionPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : BridgeHARDWARE BN (Black Nickel)UNIQUE FEATURE 3-PositionPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : BridgeCONSTRUCTION Set-inBODY Mahogany w/ flamed maple topNECK Mahogany, Modern ''C'' ShapeNECK WIDTH 1F : 43mm / 22F : 56mmNECK THICKNESS 1F : 20mm / 12F : 22mmFINGERBOARD Rosewood, 12'' Radius(305mm)FRET 22 / Large (2.7mm)INLAY Rectangular White Pearl w/ AbaloneTUNER Die castSCALE 24 3/4'' (629mm)NUT Graphite IvoryBRIDGE Wilkinson WVPC TremoloPICKUP EMG-HZ OPEN SA1(F) & TB1® (H-H)CONTROL 1vol, 1tone (w/ push pull), 3way togglePICKUP SWITCHING Coil Tap Push DownPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : BridgeCoil Tap Pull UpPosition1 : Front Coil of NeckPosition2 : Front Coil of Neck & Front Coil of BridgePosition3 : Front Coil of BridgeHARDWARE CR (Chrome)UNIQUE FEATURE Coil Tap Push DownPosition1 : NeckPosition2 : Neck & BridgePosition3 : BridgeCoil Tap Pull UpPosition1 : Front Coil of NeckPosition2 : Front Coil of Neck & Front Coil of BridgePosition3 : Front Coil of Bridgeand here's a company that sells them all for under $1000http://www.9mileguitar.com/category.sc?categoryId=94and just so you know,if you go with a schecter,ibanez,or esp,it's probably made in a cort factory anyway.take $700 of your budget,buy a high end cort,and spend the other $2100 on a custom mad Verellen or Ceriatone...just my $00.02
Members Katana Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 I see you already have a new Charvel, so that's out cause I doubt you want to buy another or you would have already.So the obvious choice (for me) would be:(or)
Members kamzan18 Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 Pacifica 1221mPacifica 1412Construction: Thru-body neck Scale length: 25.5" Neck: Maple/Mohogany Fingerboard : Ebony Nut width: 1.75" Radius: 13.75" Body: Flamed Maple/Mohogany Vibrato system: RM-Proll Pickups: American made pickups- Stacked Single Coil x 2 Humbucking x 1 Pickup switch: 5 Position 4 Pole Controls: Master Volume, Master Tone Dude if i had the money I would get a this pacifica 1412 any god damn day of the week. I've tried tons of shredders and none of them really made an impression on me quite like the couple that I've played before in my life. I'm low on money though so I can't afford it...however this initial bid price can be deceiving...last one I saw on ebay went for 1,300 when it started at a 400 dollar reserve. Anyway heres a couple vids with it...one with santana, one with this guy scott szeryk, and an interview with its designer (rick lasner) who at the time of the interview worked for Ibanez. I believe he still does now as a matter of a fact.http://cgi.ebay.com/Yamaha-Pacifica-1412-Blond-Flametop-Guitar_W0QQitemZ350281068367QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item518e60ef4fhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7GP1nV44fE&feature=related http://www.novacron.com/index.php/main/view/rich_lasner_on_the_yamaha_pacifica_series/
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 Ibanez RG Prestige, it's as good as it gets.
Members RaVenCAD Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 Ibanez RG Prestige, it's as good as it gets.No Ferd, it does get better..
Members diceman1000 Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 Ibanez RG Prestige, it's as good as it gets. Cort makes Ibanez.you get twice the guitar for half the money and a lifetime warranty to boot if you go with Cort...but hey,whatever spices your sausage compadre...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 No Ferd, it does get better.. DO'H. However...
Members Foamoi_refreshe Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 someone please tell what this is
Members RaVenCAD Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 DO'H. However... Oh paper (in photos too) that's a spectacular guitar. However, in my hands, it's a cramp waiting to happen. Can't get along with the necks. No denying the quality though. If you can get along with an RG neck, they're amazing. i don't care for flame and binding on a shredder though. I like em simple. The RG1570 (or better, the RGR1570) is, to me, about the best you can buy in an RG.. I know there are higher models, but it's mostly the tops and inlays that set them apart.
Members Busk Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 GMP. Remember the Phil Collen model?
Members exclamationmark Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 I know you said no LTD's so how about an ESP ..I recently bought a pre-2009 Horizon FR-II in STBK for about $2500 AUD (down from $3400 rrp!) and I think it is a fine guitar. These things are pretty easy to find in most oceanic regions and Europe but if I'm not mistaken the only non import models the US/various other regions get is the 2009 see through cherry with EMG's. Anyways here's some pics from a camera that probably has less megapixels than my mobile.(This may or may not be my groin region that the guitar is resting upon) (EEK! UNCUT STRING ENDS!)It's got the whole arch-top/carved thing going on, although I can't really begin to even tell if it's just a veneer, there seems to be very little information about the cap thickness. The point is that it looks really pretty Yay! It has similar features (well almost identical) to a sl-2h or sl3 soloist, ie, thru neck, 24 XL frets, OFR, the ability to have a ridiculously low action. After I had set this thing up for 11-54's the action sits at I had also tried an SL3 and an SL2H (not that I had any intention of buying an SL2, those things are the better of 5 grand AUD) and I have to say I was more impressed by the FR-II (hence why I bought it over the SL3!). Despite being made of maple/alder this guitar isn't as bright as I thought it would be, and is actually quite 'middy'. I primarily use this for soloing and the sound it gives is quite full/smooth sounding, probably due to the XL frets/neck thru more than anything else. The only things that I would personally change on this guitar is the radius; it's a 12 inch, and the neck; eww painted! Also, the fingerboard is lightly finished and feels slightly glassy, but I like it. The radius doesn't really bother me, you can pretty much do 3 semitone bends on the high E (that's all you'll get to with 11 gauges!) and not have it fret out. Had to fiddle with the neck relief in order to do so, but now I'm really happy.Another guitar that I was super impressed by was one of the new Charvel's, specifically a so-cal model with dimarzio's in it. The feel of the quartersawn rock maple fretboard/neck is just amazing. Only thing I didn't like is that you actually had to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod, which is a major pain, especially when changing string gauges, natural/seasonal adjustments etc.
Members Beckman Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 I do not envy you right now. There are so many options. And with some of the more appealing ones, you can't walk into a store and try out. I went through this a while back. I decided to build a Warmoth because I could not afford what I wanted. But, never actually went through with it. Good luck.
Members Eddie Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 ...and an interview with its designer (rick lasner) who at the time of the interview worked for Ibanez. I believe he still does now as a matter of a fact... Rich worked for Ibanez maybe 20 years before the interview took place. I don't know if he ever went back there. After Ibanez he worked for Yamaha, developing the Pacifica and Weddington series. I had the 1421, identical to the one Santana is playing in the video. Great guitar. It is different than the 1412, which had tone chambers and a figured maple top. Rik Emmet used a 1412. From what I recall, Santana managed to get an awful tone in the video you posted. I'll give it another listen later today, but when I saw it a while ago I was surprised by his tone on that guitar.
Members The Rossness Posted November 21, 2009 Author Members Posted November 21, 2009 I know you said no LTD's so how about an ESP .. I recently bought a pre-2009 Horizon FR-II in STBK for about $2500 AUD (down from $3400 rrp!) and I think it is a fine guitar. These things are pretty easy to find in most oceanic regions and Europe but if I'm not mistaken the only non import models the US/various other regions get is the 2009 see through cherry with EMG's. Anyways here's some pics from a camera that probably has less megapixels than my mobile. (This may or may not be my groin region that the guitar is resting upon) (EEK! UNCUT STRING ENDS!) It's got the whole arch-top/carved thing going on, although I can't really begin to even tell if it's just a veneer, there seems to be very little information about the cap thickness. The point is that it looks really pretty Yay! It has similar features (well almost identical) to a sl-2h or sl3 soloist, ie, thru neck, 24 XL frets, OFR, the ability to have a ridiculously low action. After I had set this thing up for 11-54's the action sits at I had also tried an SL3 and an SL2H (not that I had any intention of buying an SL2, those things are the better of 5 grand AUD) and I have to say I was more impressed by the FR-II (hence why I bought it over the SL3!). Despite being made of maple/alder this guitar isn't as bright as I thought it would be, and is actually quite 'middy'. I primarily use this for soloing and the sound it gives is quite full/smooth sounding, probably due to the XL frets/neck thru more than anything else. The only things that I would personally change on this guitar is the radius; it's a 12 inch, and the neck; eww painted! Also, the fingerboard is lightly finished and feels slightly glassy, but I like it. The radius doesn't really bother me, you can pretty much do 3 semitone bends on the high E (that's all you'll get to with 11 gauges!) and not have it fret out. Had to fiddle with the neck relief in order to do so, but now I'm really happy. Another guitar that I was super impressed by was one of the new Charvel's, specifically a so-cal model with dimarzio's in it. The feel of the quartersawn rock maple fretboard/neck is just amazing. Only thing I didn't like is that you actually had to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod, which is a major pain, especially when changing string gauges, natural/seasonal adjustments etc. I had a chance to play that one, a red quilt top at a store called "RT 1 Guitars". The ESP had no mojo for me. I also sincerely despise the EMG 81. Why can't ESP import some of their japanese models to the usa? I'd love to find an Akira Takaski (the guy form Loudness) sig or one of those carved Alfee axes.
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 Oh paper (in photos too) that's a spectacular guitar. However, in my hands, it's a cramp waiting to happen. Can't get along with the necks. No denying the quality though. If you can get along with an RG neck, they're amazing. i don't care for flame and binding on a shredder though. I like em simple. The RG1570 (or better, the RGR1570) is, to me, about the best you can buy in an RG.. I know there are higher models, but it's mostly the tops and inlays that set them apart. The Prestige Wizards are way too thin for me.
Members The Rossness Posted November 21, 2009 Author Members Posted November 21, 2009 I had a chance to play that one, a red quilt top at a store called "RT 1 Guitars". The ESP had no mojo for me. I also sincerely despise the EMG 81. Why can't ESP import some of their japanese models to the usa? I'd love to find an Akira Takaski (the guy form Loudness) sig or one of those carved Alfee axes.cool esp japan stuff-
Members RaVenCAD Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 The Prestige Wizards are way too thin for me. My hand hurts just thinking about it. The JS neck, is a whole different animal though. That thing is super comfy.. Maybe a JS1000 or JS1200 is the answer to this question?
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 My hand hurts just thinking about it. The JS neck, is a whole different animal though. That thing is super comfy.. Maybe a JS1000 or JS1200 is the answer to this question? Maybe indeed. Plus the PU's on that thing are amazing, I am a fan of the FRED.
Members exclamationmark Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 I had a chance to play that one, a red quilt top at a store called "RT 1 Guitars". The ESP had no mojo for me. I also sincerely despise the EMG 81. Why can't ESP import some of their japanese models to the usa? I'd love to find an Akira Takaski (the guy form Loudness) sig or one of those carved Alfee axes. Funny you should mention the EMG equipped version, my dealer had one for $200 more than my model. When I inquired about the differences it turned out the body wings were mahogany on the EMG version (vs alder) and it didn't have coil taps. So not only did I save 200 bucks, I got coil taps and non crap pups! I think all the others have mentioned the other great shredding guitars. Maybe your best bet is to find a small custom builder like you said. The only limiting factor would be cash of course, but the really good ones will usually work with you to create something YOU want. Also... the headstock on that orange/gunmetal explorer-esque guitar frightens and confuses me.
Members MikeSpitzer Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 You are looking for a shredder ? Here is one called "The Shredder" ...http://www.exlusiveguitars.com/exlusive_shredder.html
Members RaVenCAD Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 You are looking for a shredder ?Here is one called "The Shredder" ...http://www.exlusiveguitars.com/exlusive_shredder.html That's one of the ugliest headstocks I've ever seen.. Otherwise, pretty cool. No way I'd buy a "shred" guitar with a non-locking trem though.
Members MonSTeR Posted November 21, 2009 Members Posted November 21, 2009 I tend to prefer bolt-ons over neck-throughs, and a few of the guitars I like are, Caparison Dellinger for something a bit "out of the ordinary" Washburn N4 because they're simply amazing. I like the padauk ones the best, but all of them sound fantastic. You might want to see about the Koa topped 20th anniversary model. But if you don't want rosewood, I'd recommend hunting down an older Ibanez JEM , the white one with the ebony board. I know you said you didn't fancy an Ibanez, but I think these are great. If your budget allows the JEM10 is a fantastic guitar, but the pickup chrome wears really easily o you need to budget for me pickups too if you want it to look as good as it plays.
Members The Rossness Posted November 23, 2009 Author Members Posted November 23, 2009 I'd hunt down a early 80's B.C. Rich... actually that's exactly what I did its easier for me to list what I (kind of)didn't like about it... at first I wasn't that hot into trems either, but kahlers are easy to get into and just don't seem to give me the same problems I hear about floyds. I like kahlers now so its cool afterall, I wouldn't change it. Has anyone ever played any of Bernie Rico Jr's. Guitars. They look to be super high quality. For those who've played them, how are they?
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