Members teledweller Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Possibly the most versatile electric guitar ever. The only guitar I wish I'd never sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 55gibby Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Possibly the most versatile electric guitar ever. The only guitar I wish I'd never sold. Sweet guitar! I too would suggest either a tele or a strat. Both are really versatile, but more importantly, not nearly as touchy as a SG or Dot. I would look at guitars with P90's as well, great pups that cover a very wide range of tones. I wouldn't get too into finding "the one" guitar, at this point the amp is more important. I would look into finding a low wattage tubie. If fact, I would suggest finding a Fender Champ II, if possible. Great small amps for clean with a touch of gain (poor gain, but still gain). As for amps I prefer a really clean platform to build tone on... You can buy a pedal for distortion, but you can't buy a pedal for clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogsinotpalc Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Just go out and play as many guitars and amps as you can get your hands on (including those below and a $100-200 above your price point...if you find that perfect duo, it will be worth saving up the extra cash). Drop any preconceptions about what you do and don't like and try everything. If you let your ears guide you may end up with a Les Paul, don't limit yourself. And DO NOT get hung up on the names on the labels. It's about the sound and how that sound inspires you. Good luck, be well, and live long and prosper. But as far as great guitars at great prices, see if you can find any Reverends and Godins to test drive. Great instruments in general, but exceptionally good values. On the cheap end, Squier's Classic Vibe Tele and Strats are garnering rave reviews. $350 a pop. Get one of each and still have $500 left for an amp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 23miles Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Reverend Pete Anderson: or Godin 5th Avenue Kingpin CW II: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogsinotpalc Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Reverend Pete Anderson: or Godin 5th Avenue Kingpin CW II: Great choices, but he's looking for a guitar AND amp for the $1200 (if understood the initial post correctly). I'm all 5th Ave. CW II, but in the subtle burst, but that's streeting at about $999, right? I'd be a tall order to find a $200 or so amp to do that beauty justice. But definitely some great ES-175 vibe going and those have covered a ton of musical ground between Metheny and Steve Howe alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidMgT Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Ibanez JS1000/1200 This would be a great choice as would USA Fenders. If you are a beginner, however, I would save some money and get a guitar that costs in the $200-$300 range and an amp that is in the $200-500 range. There are a ton of great choices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blubum Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Those two you just posted are beautiful, but sadly out of my price range right now. I unfortunately don't have a job at the moment and probably won't have one until summer so I have to pretty strictly stick to my price point right now. I appreciate the advice, and I'll see if I could find a good deal on one used though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Chen Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 If resale is your ultimate concern and you're not sure what you like, my recommendation would be to go used and grab a Fender MIM fat Strat and a Peavey Bandit. Why? Once you've taken the initial hit on the Fender, it should hold it's value based on name brand recognition and fairly consistent demand. Also the fat strats are extremely versatile with regards to covering a wide tonal landscape. Same holds true with the Peavey Bandit. Very, very good clean channel which takes pedals well, a pretty good high gain channel for more modern sounds, loud enough to gig w/ ease, and a high demand on the used market ensures you won't lose your (minimal) investment. Now this whole package should cost you less than $500. Spend the extra $700 on a gift for your wife, kids, or strippers depending on your personal situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 ...Spend the extra $700 on a gift for your wife, kids, or strippers depending on your personal situation. What sort of present would his strippers appreciate? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 I guess JJ Pistols was right when he said "shopping is hard". He's a modern day Thoreau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-man Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 theres quite a difference between a bottom of the line gibson and an underpriced quality boutique guitar It's pretty difficult to A-B those two guitars in a general sense, despite some similar features of function. One is a large production company that mass-produces classics... the other is a small production company that produces oddballs or non-conventional designs... and both of them sit at completely different price points. I can guarantee you that for $400 used, you arent getting the pick of the litter either..... Actually, you can't at all. We aren't talking 300 used fadeds out there. We are talking thousands. I had one up for sale at $600 because it was particularly nice. No bites because the expectation is that fadeds should be no more than X. I told the world to go eat {censored} and kept it because I am fortunate enough that I don't need to liquidate unlike so many selling theirs now. Many others with particularly nice ones and rent due have to conform with market expectations. Hell, I got a killer deal on the V-factor which was a faded with ebony board and moon inlays, WITH CASE for only a hair more, and those ARE the pick of the litter. as far as the bolt-ons go.... I would take a solid bolt on compared to the questionable wobbly neckjoint most gibsons have Again, that's an assumption (a particularly incorrect one at that or at least 50% of my Gibsons are defective since NONE of them have that problem), and it ignores some relevant facts. Would you take a bolt on compared to the "unestablished chance" the Gibson has a wobbly neck joint? How about for twice the price? Again, at these prices I can buy two sight unseen, halving my odds I don't have a wobbly joint OR I can buy one sight unseen and I have $400-$500+ in money for my luthier to setup/repair/customize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members meelosh123 Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 What's more versatile than a fat strat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 What's more versatile than a fat strat? The only thing more versatile would be a double-fat strat with a five-way switch (that in positions two and four splits the neck and bridge hummer). Otherwise, a fat strat is a great choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vcnyls Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 2 options - Fender Telecaster (there are a few in the range that brings you under 1200 with the amp) and a Fender Blues Junior or a Line 6 modeling amp will give you lots of options). Gibson faded SG and either of those amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Misha Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 May I suggest a PRS SE Soapbar ??? http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/PRS-Guitars-SE-Custom-Semi-Hollow-Soapbar-Electric-Guitar?sku=515827 Still some money left for a good sounding amp! Teles and Strats are NICE too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teledweller Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 May I suggest a PRS SE Soapbar ??? http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/PRS-Guitars-SE-Custom-Semi-Hollow-Soapbar-Electric-Guitar?sku=515827 Still some money left for a good sounding amp! Teles and Strats are NICE too!! +1 I've never played a PRS that I hated. If I were you, I would definitely go used. Then, when you learn what your (first) dream guitar is, you won't kick your own teeth in for losing money. BTW, I still stand on the Tele thing. The average used price that I find on '72 reissue thinline teles has actually gone up since I sold mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blubum Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Okay, my plan is definitely to go used, unless I score a really great deal on something new. I found a used Sierra Sunburst American Standard Strat for $800, so I'm considering that, although it would tighten my budget a bit on the amp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 23miles Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Great choices, but he's looking for a guitar AND amp for the $1200 (if understood the initial post correctly). I'm all 5th Ave. CW II, but in the subtle burst, but that's streeting at about $999, right? I'd be a tall order to find a $200 or so amp to do that beauty justice. But definitely some great ES-175 vibe going and those have covered a ton of musical ground between Metheny and Steve Howe alone. Whoops! Sorry, I have had these on my mind lately. For the OP - I would suggest for guitars a used G&L Tribute ASAT, PRS Soapbar SE, Epiphone '56 Reissue Les Paul, or Epiphone Casino and for the amp a Ampeg Reverberocket 2 or other blue-checked Ampeg from the 60s or a Fender DRRI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vgera Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 The strat and the blues jr is a great recommendation. Go to your local guitar shop and test it.. wont be disappointed. you will even have some money left for good cables or maybe a case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stewiesguitar Posted December 19, 2009 Members Share Posted December 19, 2009 If I had $1200 to start again, knowing what I do now, I'd buy:MIM Tele or Strat ($300 used, $500 new)Blues Junior ($300 used, $600 new)Bad Monkey ($30 used, $50 new) this^. mim strats are great. blues junior gets a lot of sounds, but you can also look at a fender Super Champ XD or Vox valvetronix(what i have) both have a great variety of sounds and for s good price. in which case you might not have to get any pedal unless you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NiftyScent Posted December 19, 2009 Members Share Posted December 19, 2009 +1 I've never played a PRS that I hated.If I were you, I would definitely go used. Then, when you learn what your (first) dream guitar is, you won't kick your own teeth in for losing money.BTW, I still stand on the Tele thing. The average used price that I find on '72 reissue thinline teles has actually gone up since I sold mine. I love my '72 Thinline and '72 Custom that I purchased used in like new condition for $550 and $450 CAD respectively. Both of them are pretty versatile guitars. I also purchased a Ibanez Jet King 2 (JTK2) few days ago for $230 and that has become my new favourite guitar that I own. Great neck and very smooth to play for such a cheap guitar. Very versatile (double humbuckers with coil switching) that can suit a variety of sounds. They are discontinued but if you can find one used, I'd highly recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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