Members jnr1114 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Say I have a coil tapping guitar. Would I be able to replace the stock pickups of the guitar and replace it with some EMG's 81/85 and still have the coil tap work? Or would it be disabled? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cassette Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 EMG makes an active pickup set that can be split, but you can't split the 81/85's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Yeah, the 89 and the 89R are the splittable EMGs. And they sound pretty dang good when split. The 89 (and 89R) split is EXACTLY the same thing as the EMG SA. The 89R has the coil NOT under the logo working when split so if you wanted to split the neck position pickup and have the coil furthest from the bridge working when split, go with the 89R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnr1114 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 So would I be able to put a 81 and 85 into a split coil guitar and just not have the split coil work? Or is the wiring different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 So would I be able to put a 81 and 85 into a split coil guitar and just not have the split coil work? Or is the wiring different? What gives the guitar the coil split feature is the pickups. If you replace those pickups with non-splittable pickups (EMG 81) you lose the feature.If the guitar has a push/pull pot to activate the coil split, it would have to be removed for the EMG's also. EMG's use pots with different resistance values. To answer your question, yes you can put the EMG's in and yes the wiring is different. You won't have a coil split unless you use an EMG that is splittable (EMG 89). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 So would I be able to put a 81 and 85 into a split coil guitar and just not have the split coil work? Or is the wiring different? If the guitar has a 3 way switch and a coil split switch or a push pull knob, you can just ignore the extra switch or the bottom part of the pot. If the guitar has a strat-type 5 way switch where it does coil splitting in the #2 and #4 positions (many Ibanez guitars are like this for example), you can use the switch and positions 1, 3 and 5 will work normally, but positions 2 and 4 won't work at all. Or if you have such a switch, you could replace it with a standard tele 3 way switch. What kind of guitar are we talking about here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnr1114 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-Guitar-Research-Omen-ExtremeFR-Electric-Guitar?sku=520222 That's the guitar. So I'd be able to replace the pickups with EMG non-splittable and just not have the feature? Or do I have do buy new pots for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-Guitar-Research-Omen-ExtremeFR-Electric-Guitar?sku=520222That's the guitar. So I'd be able to replace the pickups with EMG non-splittable and just not have the feature? Or do I have do buy new pots for it? The EMG set comes with it's own pots.The stock pots in that guitar are 500Kohm pots. EMG's use 25Kohm pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnr1114 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Oh, OK. How much soldiering needs done to put a set in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 http://www.emginc.com/content/wiringdiagrams/ZW_0230-0108C.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnr1114 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Link won't work. Are the EMG's already soldiered to the pots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Quite a bit of soldering. You'd be replacing the entire wiring harness other than the 3 way switch. You'd need to have two solder joints on each pickup, about 3 or 4 solder points on each pot, and 4 solder points for the output jack which also needs to be replaced so that the circuit is only drawing power from the battery when a cable is plugged into the jack. Speaking of the battery... you need to makes space somewhere on the guitar to hold 1 or 2 9V batteries. Might be able to sneak it in the trem cavity somewhere, but I'm guessing that will be tight. Having said that, if you can solder at all, you can solder the entire guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnr1114 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hm. . . Maybe if I buy the EMG's at my local music shop they will put 'em in for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_gunslinger Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 EMG makes an active pickup set that can be split, but you can't split the 81/85's EMG makes a coil split 81, called the 81TW. Check the website link below. http://emginc.com/products/index/190/6/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Link won't work. Are the EMG's already soldiered to the pots? Link works fine on this end. Go to http://www.emginc.com/, click Support, then click wiring diagrams, click See all, scroll to the bottom and click ZW solderless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_gunslinger Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Quite a bit of soldering. You'd be replacing the entire wiring harness other than the 3 way switch. You'd need to have two solder joints on each pickup, about 3 or 4 solder points on each pot, and 4 solder points for the output jack which also needs to be replaced so that the circuit is only drawing power from the battery when a cable is plugged into the jack.Speaking of the battery... you need to makes space somewhere on the guitar to hold 1 or 2 9V batteries. Might be able to sneak it in the trem cavity somewhere, but I'm guessing that will be tight.Having said that, if you can solder at all, you can solder the entire guitar. Actually, EMG uses a new solderless install system. They use the quick connects like those on the back of the humbucker for the pots as well. There is no need to solder these anymore, unless you want too. So basically anybody who can read a wiring diagram can put these in with just a few small hand tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Sorry... revealing my age. I knew about the clips in the pickup end, but didn't realize the pots were solderless as well. Looks like the only 'issue' for the OP is where to put the battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_gunslinger Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Sorry... revealing my age. I knew about the clips in the pickup end, but didn't realize the pots were solderless as well. Looks like the only 'issue' for the OP is where to put the battery. Well it's a new system they just started using. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnr1114 Posted December 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 So that means I don't have to soldier the pots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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