Members shooto Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 anyone know if there are any GFS equivalents to Seymour Duncan pups?...if so, what are they? I think the SD Custom is close to the GFS Crunchy PAT...am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mister Zero Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 I'd say the Crunchy PAT is close to a Dimarzio Super Distortion. The GFS 59 is close to (duh) the Duncan '59 SH-1 Not sure about the Fat PAT. The VEH is similar to a Duncan '78. The Crunchy Rails is maybe a Dimebucker, and the Power Rails is maybe a Lawrence 500XL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 Comparing a GFS to a Seymour Duncan pup is about like comparing a can of Coke to a nice bottle of single malt scotch. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paulskirocks Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 Comparing a GFS to a Seymour Duncan pup is about like comparing a can of Coke to a nice bottle of single malt scotch. EG A Seymore Duncan is going to give me a headache and make me barf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 A Seymore Duncan is going to give me a headache and make me barf? EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Preacher Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 Comparing a GFS to a Seymour Duncan pup is about like comparing a can of Coke to a nice bottle of single malt scotch. EG Are you saying we should appreciate the imported product of discerning tastes and the domestic product consumed by everybody else as being two different products to be judged on their own merits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mackin Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 I'd say that, approximately, Power Rails = DiMarzio Super DistortionCrunchy Rails = Duncan JBCrunchy Pat = lower output Dimebucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 Comparing a GFS to a Seymour Duncan pup is about like comparing a can of Coke to a nice bottle of single malt scotch. EG Have you done a direct comparison, nominally similar PU types etc? I have had (duncan '59s and GFS '59s in the same guitar) and it's like coca cola (GFS) vs cheap supermarket coke (Duncan). You want scotch - go get yourself some nice vintage Gibson pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 To be honest, I haven't been overly impressed with the GFS humbuckers though I've had several sets of GFS single coils I like nearly as much as Fenders/Duncans etc. A few years ago, I asked about replacing a dead JB in a Jackson and he suggested the Crunchy PAF (back before they had to call it the Crunchy PAT). That pickup sounded pretty good in that guitar, I'd almost say better than the JB though I never directly compared them. I've had two sets of Dream 180s which I'd say are 75% PAF, 25% Filtertron but hotter. Pretty decent pickups, not really me though. Put a set of Crunchy PATs in a solid mahogany (no maple) Korean Epi, didn't like them. Put a set of Fat PATs in the same guitar, liked the neck pickup OK, bridge was way hotter than I like. Replaced them with Alnico II and BINGO! Great sounding pickups. Possibly my third favorite set I own. Never compared them directly to Duncan Alnico II Pros, but they sound great. Pretty low output, very vintage sounding. Not terribly bright, but not muddy in the least. I had a Duncan Custom 5 that I had in about 4 different guitars and I didn't like any of the GFS pickups nearly as much. I guess I'd say Crunchy PAT = JB with more bottom end. Maybe Duncan Distortion. Fat PAT = Probably the Custom 5, but not quite there. Obviously the 59 is going for the 59 vibe. I wouldn't so much figure which one is trying to cop which tone, but I'd look into what kind of tone you want and match the description to that. If you have a JB and you want another JB for cheaper, get a used JB and don't expect a GFS pickup to be the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 The gfs alnico II are the best humbucker they make. your mouth actually gets wet as you play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted December 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 thanks...trying to find something close to the Duncan Custom...will have to check out the alnico IIs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 thanks...trying to find something close to the Duncan Custom...will have to check out the alnico IIs I can assure you the only thing they have in common is they both buck hum. Other than that, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted December 26, 2009 Members Share Posted December 26, 2009 thanks...trying to find something close to the Duncan Custom...will have to check out the alnico IIs The Duncan Customs are ceramic and pretty hot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 27, 2009 Members Share Posted December 27, 2009 If you want something Alnico II, here's a used Custom Custom for sale: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showpost.php?p=37933675&postcount=181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted December 27, 2009 Members Share Posted December 27, 2009 thanks...trying to find something close to the Duncan Custom...will have to check out the alnico IIs The VEH maybe ballpark too the Custom but theres not really any GFS equivalents that I can think of offhand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cale76 Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 The gfs alnico II are the best humbucker they make. your mouth actually gets wet as you play them awesome. I just ordered a set of these on Christmas eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paulskirocks Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 awesome. I just ordered a set of these on Christmas eve. Post a clip when you can, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 I have had (duncan '59s and GFS '59s in the same guitar) and it's like coca cola (GFS) vs cheap supermarket coke (Duncan). See your hearing specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 I have an XV500 with the Crunchy Pats. They are pretty hot. I like them, even though I'm usually a fan of lower output pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rocknhard Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 Very informative post, thanks. To be honest, I haven't been overly impressed with the GFS humbuckers though I've had several sets of GFS single coils I like nearly as much as Fenders/Duncans etc.A few years ago, I asked about replacing a dead JB in a Jackson and he suggested the Crunchy PAF (back before they had to call it the Crunchy PAT). That pickup sounded pretty good in that guitar, I'd almost say better than the JB though I never directly compared them.I've had two sets of Dream 180s which I'd say are 75% PAF, 25% Filtertron but hotter. Pretty decent pickups, not really me though.Put a set of Crunchy PATs in a solid mahogany (no maple) Korean Epi, didn't like them. Put a set of Fat PATs in the same guitar, liked the neck pickup OK, bridge was way hotter than I like. Replaced them with Alnico II and BINGO! Great sounding pickups. Possibly my third favorite set I own. Never compared them directly to Duncan Alnico II Pros, but they sound great. Pretty low output, very vintage sounding. Not terribly bright, but not muddy in the least.I had a Duncan Custom 5 that I had in about 4 different guitars and I didn't like any of the GFS pickups nearly as much.I guess I'd say Crunchy PAT = JB with more bottom end. Maybe Duncan Distortion.Fat PAT = Probably the Custom 5, but not quite there. Obviously the 59 is going for the 59 vibe.I wouldn't so much figure which one is trying to cop which tone, but I'd look into what kind of tone you want and match the description to that. If you have a JB and you want another JB for cheaper, get a used JB and don't expect a GFS pickup to be the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rocknhard Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 I would suggest that you try out the Tonerider line (I don't work for them). I removed the stock PuPs from my Epi LP and replaced them with the Generator Set - TRH2 and it improved the guitar 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 I asked GFS for their closest pickup to a JB. He suggested the fat pat. To me it didn't sound exactly like JB but it most definitely sounded good. Very ballsy pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fullmetalguitar Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 I recently put the crunchy pat set into one of my guitars. They sound pretty good. Not as good as the Duncans, but still pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 The way I see it is GFS isnt a boutique pickup maker by any means.However they offer Great affordable upgrades too a lot of guitar mfgs stocker pickups.The GFS in most cases kill the stock Epi's,DD's,LTD's,IBZ,etc... brands.However when you compare them too Real Deal Boutiqes(ala BG) or the available DiMarzio's,Duncans,Gibson,PRS,etc....the GFS's dont always = upgrade and really shouldnt be confused this way.My buddy has a Gibby Studio loaded with them and loves the tones so opinions are gonna vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimwratt Posted December 28, 2009 Members Share Posted December 28, 2009 The way I see it is GFS isnt a boutique pickup maker by any means.However they offer Great affordable upgrades too a lot of guitar mfgs stocker pickups.The GFS in most cases kill the stock Epi's,DD's,LTD's,IBZ,etc... brands.However when you compare them too Real Deal Boutiqes(ala BG) or the available DiMarzio's,Duncans,Gibson,PRS,etc....the GFS's dont always = upgrade and really shouldnt be confused this way.My buddy has a Gibby Studio loaded with them and loves the tones so opinions are gonna vary. This. Gfs is a great company and makes great products for a certain segment if players, just like the other companies you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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