Members Zetor Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hey guys & girls, I apologize for the essay, but here goes: I am hoping to save up enough money during the next year to buy my first "nice" or "real" guitar. Originally I considered buying a Yamaha SA2200, but I fell in love with Telecasters during a jaunt in guitar shops. An American Standard Tele really impressed me, so I tallied up my options: American Standard, American Deluxe or Vintage Hot Rod The Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Teles are very often mentionned as excellent jazz guitars and indeed used by many great jazzers. They seem to be good for everything, in fact. I can't help you as I don't know the subtle differences between those teles. Good luck! and Happy new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 If you already tried and liked the AMS why not go with that? I have one and think it does a very nice jazz sound. I like the Idea of the VHR - you mentioned Bickert and like Keef and Summers he used a humbucker in the neck position which might be easier to approach with the mini hb than a straight singlecoil. OTOH the AMS are routed for humbuckers in the neck position so you could always mod. I have no idea about the deluxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zetor Posted December 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Cheers, your posts about the SA2200 were one of the main reasons I got interested about it in the first place. I admit that my GAS for the Yammy has been replaced with a desire for Teles, but you never know, especially as a salesman at a local store mentioned they might be getting an SA during 2010... Happy new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zetor Posted December 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Faber, I did not know about the routing in American Standards - thanks! The AMS and VHR both seem like very good choices now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 If the funds are there and you're cool with a big fat early-50s style neck, I'd say 'go for the VHR in a New York minute.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T-Pot Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 I 'll also recommend the Vintage Hot Rod Tele. I sold my Epiphone Elitist ES 335 after getting the VHT, since I could get the same type of articulate and warm neckpickup sound from the Tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Game2K Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 my AMS tele brings the sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ten56gibby Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 I say Vintage Hod Rod - for the sole reason that it is routed for a mini-humbucker WHICH MEANS you could swap that pickup out for a standard Tele neck pu if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 If your looking for Tele-tone then check this out about the Tele bridge plate material....http://www.tdpri.com/resources/tele-bridge-base-plate-materials/ I thought my Blackout Tele sounded very cool in it's stock form but the bridge pup seemed "off". I found out that it lacked a bottom pickup plate. Switched it out for one with a plate and was like....."hey now...there it is". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Cheers, your posts about the SA2200 were one of the main reasons I got interested about it in the first place. I admit that my GAS for the Yammy has been replaced with a desire for Teles, but you never know, especially as a salesman at a local store mentioned they might be getting an SA during 2010... Happy new year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Have you tried the 62 AVRI? They sound great, have a nice neck and are really nice for jazz tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members thelemac Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 I am kind of in an interesting spot as I have both a SA2200 and a 60th anniversary MIA Tele. I will never get rid of either one. Both do great jazz type sounds and are both extremely versatile guitars. I do have a lil'59 in the bridge of the tele as a standard single coil there did not really interest me. The SA2200 is the "better" guitar but I play the tele much more. The tele is just a workhorse that I can play on the couch leave out and don't worry about it too much(a 3 and a 6 year old). The SA2200 is just beatiful and in my opinion the better option. How about a HWY 1 tele? Saves you some money and then you can start saving for the Yamaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members thelemac Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 I understand there are many choices and options but seriously you can not go wrong with any of the choices mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members favata5 Posted January 1, 2010 Members Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hey guys & girls, I apologize for the essay, but here goes: I am hoping to save up enough money during the next year to buy my first "nice" or "real" guitar. Originally I considered buying a Yamaha SA2200, but I fell in love with Telecasters during a jaunt in guitar shops. An American Standard Tele really impressed me, so I tallied up my options: American Standard, American Deluxe or Vintage Hot Rod The Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted January 1, 2010 Members Share Posted January 1, 2010 The only regularly gigging jazz guitarist I know plays a Thinline Tele with standard pickups. I knew this is what he played for a couple years and one day we were talking about his history. He's a smaller guy and said he was never comfortable with anything larger than a 335 and that he wasn't really very comfortable with that either. For a number of years (20-ish) he played a solid body Tele with either an HB or a mini-HB (I forget which) and always played on the neck pickup but for the last 15 years or so, he'd been playing with the standard setup, either on the neck pickup for the mellowest tones or on both pickups but he said for Jazz he preferred the tone of the neck HB for 'his tone' but liked the versatility that his current guitar gave him. He always sounds pretty great to me. It's a different kind of tone from a big hollow body. I don't play much jazz and when I did (quasi Jazz in Jazz band in high school) I played a Jackson Soloist so I have very little to contribute of first hand information other than to say that I personally prefer a big hollow body tone, but I also feel that you can cop very decent Jazz tone with almost any decent guitar with a nice neck position pickup. And for what it's worth, I think I'd go for the Hot Rod if it were me or something similar with a neck HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zetor Posted January 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2010 My teacher plays an Ibanez George Benson model and gets gorgeous tones out of it. This clip of the late, great Ed Bickert is a good demonstration of the kind of tone I am aiming for. Of course, I lack his skill, touch and fingers, but that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BERT1FLORES Posted January 1, 2010 Members Share Posted January 1, 2010 I have a American Standard Deluxe in Butterscotch Blonde. I have had many guitars but not one that moves me like this one. The SCN pups and the S-1 switching are very nice. Its screams when driven and shimmers so beautiful on clean. It is the perfect git for me. If one thinks a Tele is only good for country and jazz then check this vid>>Everything about Teles, for me, the balance and feel of the neck is perfect. The are inspiring gits. On a side note I just ordered a black and white Zoot, I figure I should have both ends of the sonic spectrum covered now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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