Members codecontra Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 I am trying to strike a deal with a guy selling a 1989 Kramer Baretta Guitar, but I have no idea what it is worth. He is asking $500. Pic below. Looking for some input. It is in very nice condition and comes with the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mustaine-who? Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 Worth that easily...esp if that's an orginal graphic. Check ebay..they usually go in the $700 range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ESchmidt Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 Yea definetly wort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 500 is more then fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mister Zero Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 I had a black '89 which I sold for $500 about 9 years ago. $500 for a clean graphic is a smokin deal. Too bad the graphic is kinda ghey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members codecontra Posted January 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 I had a black '89 which I sold for $500 about 9 years ago. $500 for a clean graphic is a smokin deal. Too bad the graphic is kinda ghey. Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 All the graphics are silly, that's what makes them cool (kinda). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members codecontra Posted January 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 All the graphics are silly, that's what makes them cool (kinda). Yeah, but I would rather something 80's cheesy like a panther or pair of chick's legs or something. This one is kinda like, "eh". Oh well, I offered him $400, hoping he will come back at $450 and then it's going on ebay with a $1 bid and no reserve and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 If that goes on ebay you won't get it for $500.00. That graphic is cool because it's totally what I think of when I think of the 80s Kramer stuff. Look at these - the one you posted fits right it: I remember seeing the Marilyn Monroe, Lynch Dive Bomb models and the stupid tiger spot bodies but (believe it or not) it was in 89 - 91 and those were ESP. BC Rich made the snakeskin stuff and the girl type things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 They're some of the best guitars ever made. That probably cost about a thousand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted January 2, 2010 Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 Just an FYI, and I don't know if it matters to you or not... That "American" on the headstock was just a series. It doesn't mean they were MIA. Those were MIJ by ESP. Great guitars, just had murky marketing (which is, according to legend, the reason EVH dumped Kramer..) And I agree, that graphic is funky and cool.. You shoulda hit it for $500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members codecontra Posted January 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well the deal is still in the works. He opened the door with a "$500 or best offer" request and I am going to try and get it for $450. If he won't drop to $450, I might take it for $500, but money is tight right now and I would need to turn it over quickly on ebay. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members codecontra Posted January 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 2, 2010 on a side note, is there any way to tell if the guitar is legit and not a "newer" Kramer? Did they ever even reissue the Baretta? Does the headstock logo look proper for the year (1989) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted January 3, 2010 Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 Just another FYI, I'm not sure that guitar is a 91. I could be wrong, as I like Kramers but am not an authority but I think by 91 they had a Jackson Soloist type of shape - not a Strat shape. That combines with the graphic style would lead me to believe it's an earlier guitar body with a newer neck - again, I could be 100% wrong - hopefully a Kramer expert will tell us for sure. I just remember the catalog when the Baretta I and II came out and I swear they had soloist bodies. The headstock (from the picture) looks to be a 91ish, but does it say Baretta I or does it just say Baretta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members codecontra Posted January 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 Just another FYI, I'm not sure that guitar is a 91. I could be wrong, as I like Kramers but am not an authority but I think by 91 they had a Jackson Soloist type of shape - not a Strat shape.That combines with the graphic style would lead me to believe it's an earlier guitar body with a newer neck - again, I could be 100% wrong - hopefully a Kramer expert will tell us for sure. I just remember the catalog when the Baretta I and II came out and I swear they had soloist bodies. The headstock (from the picture) looks to be a 91ish, but does it say Baretta I or does it just say Baretta? I haven't seen the guitar yet in person, just pics. He told me it is an '89. I will have to check out what the neck says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted January 3, 2010 Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 Just an FYI, and I don't know if it matters to you or not... That "American" on the headstock was just a series. It doesn't mean they were MIA. Yeah at that time the necks and bodies were made by ESP. But the parts were then shipped to New Jersey where they were painted, wired, and assembled etc. I have a '87 graphic and it sounds phenomenal. I think the body is maple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members louloomis Posted January 3, 2010 Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I agree, but it doesn't look like a very familiar graphic (not that I'm a Kramer expert), so that even makes it more of a deal....just in case a collector wants this item later on....and the OP decides to sell..... LouLoomis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted January 3, 2010 Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 It is a genuine graphic - that much I am sure of. That scheme was called Rainbow Galactic. IIRC they did different variations on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted January 3, 2010 Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 I was wrong - it's Galactic Rainbow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted January 3, 2010 Members Share Posted January 3, 2010 , just had murky marketing (which is, according to legend, the reason EVH dumped Kramer..) Ed didn't dump Kramer, they were going under and Ed went to the next company (Ernie Ball I believe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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