Members Loxley Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 I had a few questions about tone woods. For one, is there a comprehensive chart about how tone woods sound? I'm disappointed by the one I've seen by Taylor, the list is pretty small... I want to be able to compare and contrast most tone woods out there in terms of their tone. Also, is there a general trend on how wood density affects tone? Also, how about density within the same kinds of wood, say you have two Strats, both the same wood, but one is heaver than the other.. how would they sound compared to one another? Also, how much does the neck's wood affect tone? Does this factor change much between set necks and bolt-on necks? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 There's one somewhere on warmoth's website. Fairly comprehensive at that. Anyway, the answer is mahogany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twofoolsaminute Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 http://www.warmoth.com/Guitar/Bodies/Options/BodyWoodOptions.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Melancon, Suhr, and Anderson all have descriptions on their websites, including body, neck, and fingerboard options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Its an exercise in extreme generalizations to be sure. Any wood species will change it's sound depending on how you cut and shape it. A miramba is a good example. The tiny ones sound bright and the big ones sound deep and full....same species of wood all up and down the instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loxley Posted January 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Its an exercise in extreme generalizations to be sure. Any wood species will change it's sound depending on how you cut and shape it. A miramba is a good example. The tiny ones sound bright and the big ones sound deep and full....same species of wood all up and down the instrument. Right, but from a strictly scientific approach, using everything but wood as a constant, how do they compare is what I'm asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Right, but from a strictly scientific approach, using everything but wood as a constant, how do they compare is what I'm asking. The thing is that you have variability within species as well as between species. In addition, the luthier has a HUGE influence on the final sound, just like different Chefs cooking with the same ingredients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Chen Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 Right, but from a strictly scientific approach, using everything but wood as a constant, how do they compare is what I'm asking. Sound isn't scientific by any stretch of the imagination, it's purely an aesthetic thing which varies from one person to the next. Given that wood is organic and not uniform from piece to piece even when cut from the same tree and you will never be able to state in absolutes that x tone wood sounds this way and y sounds this way especially considering the profound effect pickups and electronics can have on the sound of an electric guitar not to mention amps. The only way you could absolutely dictate the resonant properties of a guitar body would be to use synthetic material which could be reproduced within an extremely tight tolerance. The closest I've ever come was auditioning 2 LP styled guitars which were speced exactly the same with the singular exception being one was solid mahogany and the other mahogany with a maple cap. I played each for nearly 20 minutes though a couple amps at different gain levels and the difference was so subtle it could have easily been tiny variations in the pickup winding or pot and cap values... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jbandy10 Posted January 19, 2010 Members Share Posted January 19, 2010 http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 Isn't it 47? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 See, this is what completely destroys the credibility of this site: http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm Soft Maple:Used extensively in Korea, it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 The stiffer the wood the brighter the tone. And the heavier the wood the longer the tone will sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 20, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 20, 2010 Isn't it 47? This makes as much sense as most answers when it comes to electric guitars and wood species Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 20, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 20, 2010 And the heavier the wood the longer the tone will sustain. Nope:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 The stiffer the wood the brighter the tone. And the heavier the wood the longer the tone will sustain. The "heavy wood = sustain" idea was popular in the 70s, yet by the 80s and 90s luthiers were using softer woods and still achieving great sustain. In fact, for a while the trend was to go with lighter woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Runn3r Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 See, this is what completely destroys the credibility of this site:http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htmSoft Maple:Used extensively in Korea, it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PanaDP Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 The stiffer the wood the brighter the tone. And the heavier the wood the longer the tone will sustain. Not even close. If that was true, we'd make hardware out of lead for the great sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 Nope:wave: Sorry but you're wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 Not even close. If that was true, we'd make hardware out of lead for the great sustain. Sure it's true. Make a Les Paul with a maple neck, maple body, and an ebony fretboard and see. And we're talking about wood guitars not metal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 20, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 20, 2010 Sorry but you're wrong again. That fallacy has long been disproven, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 20, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 20, 2010 Sure it's true. Make a Les Paul with a maple neck, maple body, and an ebony fretboard and see.And thatd be nothing to do with the material property as soppsoed to the weight?You're not really thinking this through, in your world all guitars would be made of snakewood and weigh 20-30 lbs, and wouldn't sustain anymore than a Gibson CS chamebered at 7.5lbs:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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