Members CoqBelliqueux Posted February 18, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 Tech 21's new group of Character pedals is supposed to be released in a couple months and they include a switch to defeat the speaker sim. These should be much more palatable going into an effects return of a guitar amp. So at least they listened there. They obviously know these don't sound all that great feeding a guitar amp, so they are making what changes they can. Only the 3 new ones then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members examiner Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 Only the 3 new ones then? I don't know if they've officially said anything about the reworking the old ones. I assume they will once their current stock of inventory/pcb's/enclosures runs out. The Hot British are cool boxes for Marshall-y distortion tones, no doubt. But again, it's an apples to oranges comparison. The HB is designed as a stompbox to drive your amp....whereas the Tech21 is designed basically to *replace* your amp. Therein lies the rub....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 Here's another great demo of that pedal: [YOUTUBE]RqRINWcsqi8[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 I almost posted that demo, but the haters would have said the guy was cheating by having a Ric 12 string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CoqBelliqueux Posted February 18, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 I don't know if they've officially said anything about the reworking the old ones. I assume they will once their current stock of inventory/pcb's/enclosures runs out.The Hot British are cool boxes for Marshall-y distortion tones, no doubt. But again, it's an apples to oranges comparison. The HB is designed as a stompbox to drive your amp....whereas the Tech21 is designed basically to *replace* your amp. Therein lies the rub....... Well, if it's nice enough to be useful in many situations, I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeFender Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 vox tones come from vox amps. not from pedals. simulations of vox tones come from pedals. not very convincing simulations if you ask me. but i'm particular about vox tones... Vox tonez come from Vox fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 I wonder how it would sound going into an AC4?EG Vox squared??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wulver Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 Having used the Blonde pedal for about a month now, both as a direct box into a PA and into the power amp of my older Fender SS amp, well, it's a truly amazing little box. I'd have no reservations in buying the Vox model. I also plan on getting the new Hiwatt model, drool..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 If you get that pedal do you start looking for food in bins and stealing hubcaps? (British joke:)) That a scouser joke then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted February 18, 2010 Members Share Posted February 18, 2010 It's pretty much impossible to take a Fender voiced amp and make it sound like a Vox. Fwiw, the Fender XD amps do have a Vox setting. I pretty much live on the Vox setting on my Super Champ XD for distortion. I don't have direct playing experience with real Vox amps but I like the sounds from that setting on my amp anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CoqBelliqueux Posted February 20, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2010 the Liverpool is here (along with a free rubber ducky!) Yes, the Sansamp quack is right there, it's like they haven't found a way to get rid of it in 20 years! It's not that annoying, but no matter how good the sound is, this always reminds you that this is an illllluuuuuusion, not the real thing. (think Shadow Gallery - Tyranny) quack quack But the sound...Very, very, very good. Fender Champ 600 and Washburn Sonic 7 with Invader pickups? Sounds beau-ti-ful, clean, sparkly, jangly as much as you want, just sweet and wide. Sounds like a different amp and guitar altogether. Keep the Character low and bump up the gain and you get clean with rich harmonic content, just a bit greasy to make it cool. As I expected, the EQ is the hidden gem in this thing. The manual insists that you must trust your ears and not the position of the dials. One minor thing is that at higher gain level, the volume has to be turned down almost to zero to match bypass volume. The higher gain tones also have some kind of blanket effect, which I attribute to the very mellow amp and the small speaker. I can't wait to try it into something else too. GOOD-sound quality-versatility-harmonic content / complexity BAD-quack quack quack-only one footswitch / one sound at a time-output level and eq are very variable and sensitive so it's hard / dangerous to tweak on the fly, each different sound needs an adjustment of almost all of the knobs With the EQ set flat, the Character knob goes from brittle to normal clean and then past 12 o'clock, grit appears, then distortion and then the May sound, which sounds muddy and blanketed. Back off the character a bit and it clears up, that's where the good grit is, around 2-3 o'clock for me. And that's with a high-output bassy metal guitar, so imagine with something more reasonable. All pickup positions sound very different too, a very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted February 20, 2010 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2010 That a scouser joke then? Google "bindipper" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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