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I remember hearing that the 400 series was made in Korea, and was replaced with the Indonesian 401 series guitars. I've heard the Korean models are made better, but how much of this is internet crap isn't clear to me. I played a 401 model not too long ago (the one that looks like an SG), it was a well made guitar, but the neck shape was not my thing.

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I remember hearing that the 400 series was made in Korea, and was replaced with the Indonesian 401 series guitars. I've heard the Korean models are made better, but how much of this is internet crap isn't clear to me. I played a 401 model not too long ago (the one that looks like an SG), it was a well made guitar, but the neck shape was not my thing.

 

 

 

Hmmmmm. After some checking around, the 401 series is indeed made in Indonesia. I wonder how this affects the quality? For $399, it seems that it's not much of a gamble, considering how the guitar is equipped. Hopefully.

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I have a Korean made Viper 400 that I love to death. It's currently fitted with Lollar imperial humbuckers, mmmmmmmm..... But the EMGs that were in it before were nice too. I don't know about the Indonesia made stuff, my experience with LTD's has only been the Korean, and all of them have been great.

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I remember hearing that the 400 series was made in Korea, and was replaced with the Indonesian 401 series guitars. I've heard the Korean models are made better, but how much of this is internet crap isn't clear to me. I played a 401 model not too long ago (the one that looks like an SG), it was a well made guitar, but the neck shape was not my thing.

 

 

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Was gonna order, but gonna wait. I called AMS and they said they currently show 2 shipments coming in; one on 2/20 and another on 2/23.

 

I asked the girl that it shows a special price and if those two loads coming in were the last ones and she said that from what she sees in the system that the particular model isn't going away and shows as a current model.

 

Ya'll think that maybe there was a price drop in that particular model? I mean it doesn't seem like a bad deal. What's funny is that if you order the guitar and case, they'll ship the case first and then the guitar once it comes in. She said the only way they'd wait to ship the guitar in the case is if you called in and specifically tell them to hold the guitar case and once the guitar came in, you'd have to call back when you thought it'd be available and release the order. A couple extra steps, but then again I don't know how well they ship their guitars without a case.

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I've had about 6 Korean LTDs and currently have an Indonesian Viper 100. Mine is fine, but I've played several of the recent LTDs and they do feel a bit less good overall, but not bad at all.

 

:idk:

 

LTDs don't have great resale either. I got my vintage black EC1000 for $500 shipped. I'd definitely rather have a used Korean EC1000 than a new Indonesian EC401 and it is easily with the extra $$$.

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I can vouch for Indonesian. I have a Squier Deluxe Strat thats a flawless in terms of build quality.

 

 

I can vouch for Indonesian guitars too, own 3 and the quality on them far exceeds what you would expect considering their prices. In fact, the action on the necks are near perfect!

 

That said, I would personally prefer something like the Godin Redline series if i was looking for another cheap guitar with EMGs (i prefer the body shape, never been an SG fan)

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I can vouch for Indonesian guitars too, own 3 and the quality on them far exceeds what you would expect considering their prices. In fact, the action on the necks are near perfect!


That said, I would personally prefer something like the Godin Redline series if i was looking for another cheap guitar with EMGs (i prefer the body shape, never been an SG fan)

 

 

 

Cool. I wouldn't be buying it @$679. $399 seems like a good deal. I'll post some pics when i get it.

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Just got it from UPS. It looks flawless to my eye. I'm very happy with it. Now I just need to decide on an amp. Peavey Vypyr, or a small tube amp?

 

{censored}er. you are about to cost me 400 dollars. I like the looks and i love the way my ec 1000 feels. How do you like it so far?

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Fucker. you are about to cost me 400 dollars. I like the looks and i love the way my ec 1000 feels. How do you like it so far?

 

 

I'm about to take it in to a local shop here, and check it out with a few different amps. As far as the finish, and fit, I can't find anything wrong. Buy one on the easy payment plan, that way you're not out much $$$, and you can return it if you don't like it. I'll bet that you keep it though. Mooooohahahaha!:thu:

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Yeah, I've got a few Washburns made in Indonesia. Wonder if they are coming from the same shop?

 

Go for the Vyper but get a 30 or bigger. I have the 15 and the speaker is a weak link, plus you can't use the footswitch, no usb, etc.

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I'm about to take it in to a local shop here, and check it out with a few different amps. As far as the finish, and fit, I can't find anything wrong. Buy one on the easy payment plan, that way you're not out much $$$, and you can return it if you don't like it. I'll bet that you keep it though. Mooooohahahaha!
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I know I'll keep it. The neck is perfect for me on those models. I have been dealing with ams for several years and have always had a positive experience with them. As for the emgs I will give them a try but prob going to rip em out and put some suhr pipe or BG' s.

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the korean ltds were better made. i played the new 401 two days ago. you cant beat the features for the price, but the quality isnt there like it was on the korean ltd i had.

 

 

 

Honestly the difference is negligible in my opinion. For $399, you won't find many, if any new guitars equipped with an emg 81/85 set, and the features that this one has. This is an extremely nice guitar at this price.

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Honestly the difference is negligible in my opinion. For $399, you won't find many, if any new guitars equipped with an emg 81/85 set, and the features that this one has. This is an extremely nice guitar at this price.

 

 

i agree that its a killer deal with the EMG's in it, but it seemed like the finer details got more attention back in the korea factory. idk, i could have just had a bad one.

 

i got a good deal on the LTD 400 i got i think i only payed $250 on CL or something, so i sold it for $410 on ebay and made a nice profit.

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