higest output strat single coil that still looks like a single coil

[Still.ill]

so no jbs jrs or lace sensors/

or actives

 

right now im looking dimarzio area's... any other reccomendations?

[docjeffrey]

EMG's would sound great:

 

 

This is an SAV with Alnico magnets and flat pole pieces.

[Still.ill]

ah... not a fan of active's... should have put that in op

[cratz2]

The areas are pretty low output actually.

 

The Virtual Solo is Dimarzio's highest output single coil pickup. I haven't heard it as far as I know, but I have heard the Heavy Blues 2 in the bridge and I actually quite liked it.

 

I have one strat with a Dimarzio SDS1 in the bridge... it's sort of a P90-ish tone. It's meaner sounding than an traditional strat pickup I've ever heard. It looks like a strat pickup in that it has 6 pole pieces, but they are are adjustable so they are hex-head instead of flat. Not really crazy about it, but I haven't swapped it out yet. The Dimarzio Red Velvet is also pretty hot, but it's another one I've never heard and like the SDS1, it's not noiseless.

 

Bryan (bg-pups.com) has the S90 which is a P90s jobbie as well and he has the Phatty. I'm not sure which actually has more output, but I'd suspect the S90 would. Both are intended to give a fatter, fuller tone, esp in the bridge position. I'd PM him or email him directly if he doesn't stop by in this thread.

 

I'd imagine any of the pickup builders that wind their own pickups could wire one up as fat as possible... maybe even so much that you can't put a cover on it, then take around it to protect the coil. But why exactly do you want it to be super hot? The hotter it is, the more likely you'll have issues with noise, I would imagine and the hotter it is, the further away from a vintage single coil that is very responsive you'll be.

 

[docjeffrey]

By the way, EMG installation is a snap (literally) these days:

 

[docjeffrey]

I have used Duncan 1/4 Pounders on some of my guitars--currently I have them on my Jazzmaster and my Ibanez bass. They are really punchy, but the Jaguar version has too much upper mid emphasis. The B-string just overpowers everything.

[Still.ill]

The areas are pretty low output actually. The Virtual Solo is Dimarzio's highest output single coil pickup. I haven't heard it as far as I know, but I have heard the Heavy Blues 2 in the bridge and I actually quite liked it. I have one strat with a Dimarzio SDS1 in the bridge... it's sort of a P90-ish tone. It's meaner sounding than an traditional strat pickup I've ever heard. It looks like a strat pickup in that it has 6 pole pieces, but they are are adjustable so they are hex-head instead of flat. Not really crazy about it, but I haven't swapped it out yet. The Dimarzio Red Velvet is also pretty hot, but it's another one I've never heard and like the SDS1, it's not noiseless. Bryan (bg-pups.com) has the S90 which is a P90s jobbie as well and he has the Phatty. I'm not sure which actually has more output, but I'd suspect the S90 would. Both are intended to give a fatter, fuller tone, esp in the bridge position. I'd PM him or email him directly if he doesn't stop by in this thread. I'd imagine any of the pickup builders that wind their own pickups could wire one up as fat as possible... maybe even so much that you can't put a cover on it, then take around it to protect the coil. But why exactly do you want it to be super hot? The hotter it is, the more likely you'll have issues with noise, I would imagine and the hotter it is, the further away from a vintage single coil that is very responsive you'll be.

well im trying to attain a late hendrix tone/early smashing pumpkins gish era tone/early uli jon roth tone

[cratz2]

well im trying to attain a late hendrix tone/early smashing pumpkins gish era tone/early uli jon roth tone

Hrmm... I think Corgan used Laces back then. I suspect Hendrix used whatever pickups came in a particular guitar so I would assume compared to most current aftermarket pickups, they were pretty low output. Big fan of Uli, but I know nothing of the specifics of his early guitars.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say looking for the hottest traditional single pickups in an effort to sound like any of them is going in the wrong direction.

[Still.ill]

Hrmm... I think Corgan used Laces back then. I suspect Hendrix used whatever pickups came in a particular guitar so I would assume compared to most current aftermarket pickups, they were pretty low output. Big fan of Uli, but I know nothing of the specifics of his early guitars. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say looking for the hottest traditional single pickups in an effort to sound like any of them is going in the wrong direction.

corgan used laces in his siamse dream era, but during his Gish Era his tone was strat single coils because of his 70's strat that eventually got stolen
like the solos on bury me or rhinoceros/tristessa have a different piercing sound.

i actually read both Corgan and Uli what they did was adjust the pole pieces of the strat for maximum gain by putting them as super close to the strings

['s mel gibson]

Nahhhh! Get a Marshall stack and a Fuzz Face. Plug in any stock Fender Strat. And stock Tele's sound great through that rig too.

[Orange Jackson]

I like the idea of Area 67 neck and middle and a virtual solo in the bridge. Those are the pups I'm putting in the body I just ordered.
500k pots for those btw.

[Wulver]

Seymour Duncan makes Strat pickups for more high-gain purposes. If David Gilmour is of any significance to you, the bridge of his Black Strat has been a prototype SD that became the SSL-5 production model.

[EJD]

Maybe try the BG Pups Phatty? Bryan's a fellow forumite here, and I'm sure he'd be willing to help you out.

 

http://www.norcalguitars.com/clips/phatty-bridge.MP3

 

Output levels are up to 11k, it says on the site

[Ratae Corieltauvorum]

If you want passive then you'll need to look at some ceramic powered pickups.

 

Bareknuckle do two high output sets, the Trilogy Suite which has a bridge at 16k, and the midle and neck at 11 but with Alnico V magnets, so in real terms they are more medium output.

 

The Sinner set are still Al Vs but wound to a DC resistance of 21k, so medium high output.

 

"......Designed specifically for players who demand very high output without losing the character of a real single coil. Huge bass and low mid chunk combine with a smooth, clear top end that never gets abrasive."

 

You should also look again at DiMarzio's site as the Areas are not their highest output Strat single coils, the HSs appear to be

[cratz2]

You should also look again at DiMarzio's site as the Areas are not their highest output Strat single coils, the HSs appear to be

 

 

The HSs are VERY low output, mate.

 

They have a lot of resistance in the windings, but the magnets are VERY weak. For example, the HS3 has an output of 93 and a resistance of 23k. The SDS-1 has an output of 200, but a resistance of only 9.1k.