Members triplover64 Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 From what I've read on the net, they're better made than the Gibsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GRANKOR Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 They're basically the precursors to the Epiphone Elitists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mid Life Crisis Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I've got an Orville by Gibson Les Paul 59RI plaintop, and it's better than the 5 or 6 Gibson Les Pauls I've played. The ObG's are meant to be better than the simple Orvilles though. Mine has all the goodies - Gibson 57 pickups and other hardware, medium tenon (some have long), nitro finish, fret edge binding. It plays and sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lp_junkie Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I have owned several over the years, incredible guitars. After I got my first I actually sold the Gibsons that I had at the time, it blew them out of the water in fit, finish and performance. Mine is a regular Orville, it has the thin poly finish and I have replaced the electronics, but it does have a long tenon and a 1 pc back all other specs are the same as Gibson except no fret edge binding. I still prefer my Orville over the Gibsons I own now, it is my #1 stage/studio guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jelloman Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 c'mon lp-j, do it to me again...I'm waiting... ...post the pic, damn you...:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 Had an Orville by Gibson SG 61 and loved it. One-piece body, USA pickups, and great quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd be interested to see if the perceived quality of Orvilles, MIJ/CIJ Fenders, etc. is still as high as it was before the recent Toyota experience popped the bubble of supposed Japanese superiority in build quality/QA. I've played a number of Japanese guitars (Fenders, Yamahas, Yaris, etc.) and while they were fine guitars, I didn't find anything magical about them. I do think that a lot of the supposed superiority was based on perceptions of Japanese industrial practices that may be more illusory- than reality-based these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lp_junkie Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 BSman- the Orvilles were made between 88-98 so the quality is not a perceived thing, it has a history of being what it is. The contract was overseen by Yamano Gakki, Yamano was the Gibson distributor and known for cherry picking the Gibson production as well, they didn't settle for just any guitar when they built them. The attention to detail and vintage correct features were a big demand in Japan when these were being produced. There was a demand for Les Pauls that were better than the then current Gibson products. Jelloman, just for your GAS pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd be interested to see if the perceived quality of Orvilles, MIJ/CIJ Fenders, etc. is still as high as it was before the recent Toyota experience popped the bubble of supposed Japanese superiority in build quality/QA. I've played a number of Japanese guitars (Fenders, Yamahas, Yaris, etc.) and while they were fine guitars, I didn't find anything magical about them. I do think that a lot of the supposed superiority was based on perceptions of Japanese industrial practices that may be more illusory- than reality-based these days... While you may be right, I have a 76 Greco LP that's just amazing. I've also got a 2007 Gibson LP (Classic Antique), and I'd put the Greco right there with it in terms of construction, playability, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magentaplacenta Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I used to have a regular Orville, electronics were definitely the weak part of the guitar. Should have tried swapping them out, but I ended up selling it, just never really bonded with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I guess I'm talking more about the recent Japanese guitars. I have played some recent HH Jaguars, etc. that I thought were not as nicely put together as some of the MIMs I've handled (and the one I bought) recently. I wonder if the Japanese are not somewhat 'resting on their laurels' these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jelloman Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 Jelloman, just for your GAS pains. ...*sigh*... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lp_junkie Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 Bsman- Gibsons been resting on theirs for 50 years so that may be with current production in Japan, once you get successful then you get complacent. Because people will buy it for the name on the headstock and legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted March 17, 2010 Members Share Posted March 17, 2010 I guess I'm talking more about the recent Japanese guitars. I have played some recent HH Jaguars, etc. that I thought were not as nicely put together as some of the MIMs I've handled (and the one I bought) recently. I wonder if the Japanese are not somewhat 'resting on their laurels' these days... Oh, gotcha. That makes more sense than the way I interpreted it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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