Members BoneNut Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Damn! Can't see pictures at work but I'm sub'd. Will you be doing yourself a huge favor and leaving a control access in the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Timmay, that does look like a carbon neck. It looks like their mold is large enough that the back and neck are one single piece. That isn't an option for me since I can't get material that large for a mold, but it is the best way to build a composite guitar. Roughtrade - thanks for the input. I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with the current mold for the moment. It needs a bit of sanding work as you can see from the pictures, but once I get everything smoothed out, it should be pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Damn! Can't see pictures at work but I'm sub'd. Will you be doing yourself a huge favor and leaving a control access in the back? Nope, no control plate. All the electronics will be fed through the pickup and f holes. the electronics should only need to go in once so I'm not going to worry about it. I don't want to change the way the back resonates by adding mass where the control point would be. Since the material is carbon fiber, it won't hold a fastener, so it'll need to have wood/metal backing any place there would be a screw. This would add a lot of mass to one section of the back plate and would make the guitar resonate differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 This is insanely cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks Pete! I'm having a blast. This is the coolest way I think of to earn credits for school. I can't believe I was able to get guitar building to count for my Engineering major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snowaie Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 dude. {censored}ing rad. awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CriminalyInsane Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Sub'd... Really looking forward to this...great idea...looking good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chqtarzan Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 If I saw this thread two years ago, I could ditch architecture and be in mechanical engineering now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members roughtrade Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks Pete! I'm having a blast. This is the coolest way I think of to earn credits for school. I can't believe I was able to get guitar building to count for my Engineering major You never know what direction an education can take, this one may call for some follow up after the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Thanks guys. Hopefully there'll be some more pics from today. I'm laying up my first carbon fiber top this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k4df4l Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Stunning stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Today's progress. Same setup as last time, but this time I have pics of the carbon layup thanks to my friend Dave. This is 10 layers of CF weave which should yield a top about 2mm thick. No pics of bagging, but I'll have pics of the completed top tomorrow (fingers crossed). Should pop out just as nicely as the glass top. Actually, this won't be a top most likely, it will be a back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JTEES4 Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 Cool project, looks really good. I am a carbon fiber fan, I have owned Steinbergers...not right now though. I suspect it will sound great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 This is so insanely wetting your pants cool. I'm jealous. And glad for you - this is such a cool thing to do!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 Insane in the membrane! Coolest homework project ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 i'd love to know what material cost would be on this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 26, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 i'd love to know what material cost would be on this.. You mean my cost or the cost to the school? Because my cost is $0 If I were to pay for the carbon cloth it probably would have been around $120 worth of cloth....which is why I'm building as many tops as I can at school They get this stuff for cheap or free from companies offloading their old stock. heck, we have about $30k worth of unidirectional prepreg carbon fiber the the fridge in the lab that Boeing gave us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 $30k worth of unidirectional prepreg carbon fiber the the fridge in the lab .. in the fridge? you need to refrigerate that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PanaDP Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 in the fridge? you need to refrigerate that? By "prepreg" I assume he means it's already impregnated with the resin or whatever carbon fiber uses in place of resin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chadd Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 By "prepreg" I assume he means it's already impregnated with the resin or whatever carbon fiber uses in place of resin. Yep, most of the hockey manufacturers switched to prepreg a number of years ago. It is more consistent than the old RTM methods they used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 26, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 Yeah, "Prepreg" already has the epoxy mixed in with the fibers. Its stays uncured at low temp, but then it gets sticky at room temp (for layup) and then hardens around 200*F. Pretty cool stuff. It's a lot easier to work with than the carbon weave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted March 27, 2010 Members Share Posted March 27, 2010 I'm having photo withdrawal. Need some pic updates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted March 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2010 Ask and ye shall receive! Vacuum setup: Bleeder on top: Fresh from the mold: Cut and ready to assemble: Close up on the CF weave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whyflipoverthefrog Posted March 27, 2010 Members Share Posted March 27, 2010 Holy {censored}, subscribed. I always dreamed of doing this with my mechanical engineering buddies when we were in school. As a geotechnical engineer, my guitar built out of soil was less than functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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