Members Benjamin3156 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Don't worry-- I'm pretty sure that now when a post starts with "hai gaiz" it's universally recognized as comedy.The first one was aight, from there on in I think they were big fialboats. Those and Fat Wreck comps were all some people had access to. They always had solid BR and NOFX tracks. Nothing wrong with a Punk-o-Rama comp. They did what they were supposed to do. And just for the record...don't make fun of Hot Topic and its patrons when you worked there. I've never met bigger scene kids than Hot Topic employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caleb Knockin Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 What was the hubub about? Often, the folks in there fight about what constitutes good music. In these threads, any music that is not prog. rock, classic rock, or folk music is challenged. Really, there was nothing that offensive said, just someone commenting on how much they hated Sex Bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnoMan97 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hey Steve, why don't you stop trying to make friends off of my mom's (Gayle's) fame and work on paying back all of the child support you owe us? Seriously, you aren't punk, you are the BIGGEST loser I've ever known. Holy Crap!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CandyMorency Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 And just for the record...don't make fun of Hot Topic and its patrons when you worked there. I've never met bigger scene kids than Hot Topic employees. If that was directed at me I didn't mean to make you think that way. I LOVE Hot Topic for the vintage 80's shirts and video game merchandise. It's just a victim of the fads that the whiny little kids get into - Twilight for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Youth Brigade were pretty sloppy, nut I loved the hell out of them. Wish I could have seen them.Anyone consider Flipper in the same ranks? Maybe in the same ranks. Flipper were just so agonizingly slow and atonal so much of the time. How could you NOT love 'em? I'd also include No Trend as a great "sloppycore" band. I made a million comp tapes back in the day with their song 'Family Style" on them. I've said this on here before, but a lot of people who don't know much about punk write it off as a bunch of whiny no-talents spitting angst while only knowing two chords and makikng a lot of pointless noise. While that's true of some punk bands (including some really good ones!) there were a lot of different kinds of bands that sort of fell under the punk banner. There were bands called "punk" that brought all kinds of influences into the mix. Saccharine Trust were very jazzy. Minutemen and Beefeater were very funky. Early D.R.I. and Die Kreuzen were blisteringly tight and fast. Flipper and No Trend and Fang were slower and sloppier. Husker Du were influenced by 60s psychedelia and bubblegum. Butthole Surfers were influenced by dirty bathtub acid. Mission of Burma were very literate and groovy. Bad Brains investigated dub and reggae to great effect. The Dils and Meat Puppets had a lot of country/western influence. Black Flag morphed into a weird mix of free jazz and classic metal in some ways. Though a loose "afiliation" of bands and scenes, there was a hell of a lot more to "punk rock" than most people realize, and a hell of a lot more talent was involved in a lot of those bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafinoneear Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 If that was directed at me I didn't mean to make you think that way. I LOVE Hot Topic for the vintage 80's shirts and video game merchandise. It's just a victim of the fads that the whiny little kids get into - Twilight for example. I'm pretty sure he was directing that at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin3156 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 If that was directed at me I didn't mean to make you think that way. I LOVE Hot Topic for the vintage 80's shirts and video game merchandise. It's just a victim of the fads that the whiny little kids get into - Twilight for example. I wasn't referring to you. I've bought several shirts at hot topic. They were good about having a handful of cool band shirts at any given time. It's a little embarassing to admit that you ever went to a mall to see what Hot Topic had, but such is life. I just get a little annoyed when people act like they have a higher understanding of music (especially punk) because they know more obscure and lesser distributed stuff. I was raised on lesser appreicated music (mostly early 70's glam and first wave punk) and I don't act like that. There's no excuse for people to be so elitist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafinoneear Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Maybe in the same ranks. Flipper were just so agonizingly slow and atonal so much of the time. How could you NOT love 'em?I'd also include No Trend as a great "sloppycore" band. I made a million comp tapes back in the day with their song 'Family Style" on them.I've said this on here before, but a lot of people who don't know much about punk write it off as a bunch of whiny no-talents spitting angst while only knowing two chords and makikng a lot of pointless noise.While that's true of some punk bands (including some really good ones!) there were a lot of different kinds of bands that sort of fell under the punk banner.There were bands called "punk" that brought all kinds of influences into the mix. Saccharine Trust were very jazzy. Minutemen and Beefeater were very funky. Early D.R.I. and Die Kreuzen were blisteringly tight and fast. Flipper and No Trend and Fang were slower and sloppier. Husker Du were influenced by 60s psychedelia and bubblegum. Butthole Surfers were influenced by dirty bathtub acid. Mission of Burma were very literate and groovy. Bad Brains investigated dub and reggae to great effect. The Dils and Meat Puppets had a lot of country/western influence. Black Flag morphed into a weird mix of free jazz and classic metal in some ways.Though a loose "afiliation" of bands and scenes, there was a hell of a lot more to "punk rock" than most people realize, and a hell of a lot more talent was involved in a lot of those bands. Right on. I agree with everything you say (except for Husker Du-- I just cannot place them in the punk tank). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 In all honesty, I've never even picked up an instrument... I've always been a nerd. Hey lookit, most of us play instruments and are the biggest nerds on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Old school? Try the Fugs (youtube "CIA Man!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Right on. I agree with everything you say (except for Husker Du-- I just cannot place them in the punk tank).Then you have obviously never heard these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin3156 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hey lookit, most of us play instruments and are the biggest nerds on the planet. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zemmy Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 just when we didnt think indianscout could fail any harder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CandyMorency Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hey lookit, most of us play instruments and are the biggest nerds on the planet. I really shouldn't have used that as an excuse, sorry... I'm the whole "government certified to work on aerospace and military" repair tech; can tear anything apart, mod and repair it. I always have to have the best when it comes to electronics and fangasm over E3 footage LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin3156 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Don't knock me until you know me. Believe me, the group that I worked with were fully aware of how funny it all was... And how funny some of the other (newer) employees were. It was all a big joke to us. Thankfully I never worked with any of the super-diehard kids who wore nothing but black, nor any of the scene kids, though when I worked there, there wasn't really anything called a "scene kid." One good thing about it was that my store was in a mall in the San Fernando Valley (the Northridge store to be exact) and we would constantly be getting porn stars in there. It was great when they went to try stuff on because they would always close the changing room curtains haphazardly and I would always go to the back of the store to "clean up the display shelves" which really meant watch them out of the corner of my eye. I got caught twice by the girls and they didn't care. I even caught two (guy and girl) getting it on in the changing room, which was awesome for my little 16-year old eye. Good times, good times. I'm not knocking you, I just get annoyed with people constantly having to assert how punk they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin3156 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 I really shouldn't have used that as an excuse, sorry... I'm the whole "government certified to work on aerospace and military" repair tech; can tear anything apart, mod and repair it. I always have to have the best when it comes to electronics and fangasm over E3 footage LMAO What airframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 "He's so punk, if he moved in next door to you, your grass would turn pink!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Muddslide Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 I'm not knocking you, I just get annoyed with people constantly having to assert how punk they are. Yeah, I hope I didn't come off that way, even though it may have sounded like it. I am 41 as of last Wednesday. I admit when I was in my teens and playing in punk bands that there were times I tried to be in step with what was "cool" and "uncool" (i.e. "punk" and "not punk") but I gave up any concern for being hip or "into the right bands" over two decades ago. I also don't understand why some people dislike bands simply because they are popular, or only champion bands that are obscure or that make "difficult music." I mean, White Stripes are a good example. Whether or not you like them, my point is that when they were more underground they had tons of the hip set singing their praises. But once they hit big, a lot of those people started claiming they sucked. Why? Did the music change that much, or did they just become uncool because so many more people got exposed to them and came to like them? I've always listened to all kinds of music. I have stuff from all over the world going back to the 1880s and right up to the present. I love a lot of old punk stuff, but I also dig ELO, Tom Petty and lots of other bands that have been wildly popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin3156 Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Yeah, I hope I didn't come off that way, even though it may have sounded like it.I am 41 as of last Wednesday. I admit when I was in my teens and playing in punk bands that there were times I tried to be in step with what was "cool" and "uncool" (i.e. "punk" and "not punk") but I gave up any concern for being hip or "into the right bands" over two decades ago.I also don't understand why some people dislike bands simply because they are popular, or only champion bands that are obscure or that make "difficult music."I mean, White Stripes are a good example. Whether or not you like them, my point is that when they were more underground they had tons of the hip set singing their praises. But once they hit big, a lot of those people started claiming they sucked. Why? Did the music change that much, or did they just become uncool because so many more people got exposed to them and came to like them?I've always listened to all kinds of music. I have stuff from all over the world going back to the 1880s and right up to the present.I love a lot of old punk stuff, but I also dig ELO, Tom Petty and lots of other bands that have been wildly popular. Exactly, music is either good or it isn't. Every once and a while the masses get it right. In the case of punk-o-rama...that was a lot of peoples' entry into the "punk" community so what if epitaph made a couple bucks selling it to teenage mall punks. The point is that somebody's band was on that record and somebody else heard it. That's what matters. I'm sure even N'Sync liked knowing that someone was listening to/enjoying THEIR music. It's not our place to knock ANYONE'S music or the people who listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafinoneear Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Then you have obviously never heard these: You're right, I haven't. Going to check it out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapbladder Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 BTW hot topic was just as pathetic 15 years ago as it was today. Sorry, but it's true. The Metalshop in Milwaukee, now that was bitchin' SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CandyMorency Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 What airframe? Honeywell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 I think this thread just passed its "sell-by" date... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zemmy Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 I think this thread just passed its "sell-by" date... surprised? considering who created it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CandyMorency Posted September 22, 2009 Members Share Posted September 22, 2009 Steve Sanders is beyond "sell by" date; I should get some pictures from my sister and show you all what an ugly old man he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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