Members scuzzo Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 as a form of eduction and practice i like to riff along to backing tracks and stuff.. but im finding that there are some keys that i just dont like..those country kinda progressions.. in G for instance.. just dont vibe with the Key of G very much.. hows bout yous guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 for the easy types of music (rock/blues/etc) I guess the only thing that bothers me is if it's a sharp/flat key because then I have to pay a bit more attention to my positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orange Jackson Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 as a form of eduction and practice i like to riff along to backing tracks and stuff.. but im finding that there are some keys that i just dont like..those country kinda progressions.. in G for instance.. just dont vibe with the Key of G very much..hows bout yous guys... As a bit of a theory pedant myself, I hope you don't mind me tweaking your post. You say you do not like the Key of G. Is that G minor I assume?If it is G major, well then, G major is the same notes and E minor, and of course every guitarist loves E minor. So a love of the G major is a natural fit for us. I tend to enjoy playing in keys that I normally don't, like F# minor. It makes me have to look at the neck in a different way and so forces me into new ways of dealing with the scales and chords. I seem learn a lot when I do this anyway. Helps me to get outside of a limited way of going about scale and chord work. Looking at G minor now, I see that I hardly ever use it. Thanks, I 'll give it a crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 E flat major or minor on guitar, A flat major or F minor on the piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poolshark Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 F major, F# major. I mean, they're doable, but the positioning isn't particularly intuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 My example is neither "can't play" nor "don't like". I would call it "keeps me on the edge of my seat". As a member of a big band, I must read chord charts on the spot in rehearsals (songs I've never played before and in some cases never HEARD before). The pieces are more often than not in keys that are very guitar-unfriendly: Eb, Bb, F and so on. I must play often up the neck (around sixth fret, etc) and that wouldn't be a problem if i didn't have to keep my eyes on the chart! Getting better at it, though. When i started with the band two years ago, I was sweating like a pig trying not to screw up. And I did screw up a few times, even having to stop playing because i lost track of the chart. Doesn't happen anymore, I'm happy to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faberbz Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 Country progressions are (most of the time) I, IV, V. Nothing unusual about that. G major is a popular key, true. But if you don't like country progressions, it's probably the scales, not the key itself. Country leads are usually built on the major pentatonic scales, whereas rock/blues makes more use of the minor pentatonic/blues scales, though obviously not always. I'm guessing that it's the intervals you aren't liking, not necessarily the key. I mean, why hate G major and love A major? Are major diatonic scales OK for you? (do you also play piano?) Is it just the intervals of the major pentatonics? ...The keys that make me think a little, on guitar, is Eb major or minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members neffrocks Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 My example is neither "can't play" nor "don't like". I would call it "keeps me on the edge of my seat".As a member of a big band, I must read chord charts on the spot in rehearsals (songs I've never played before and in some cases never HEARD before). The pieces are more often than not in keys that are very guitar-unfriendly: Eb, Bb, F and so on. I must play often up the neck (around sixth fret, etc) and that wouldn't be a problem if i didn't have to keep my eyes on the chart! Getting better at it, though. When i started with the band two years ago, I was sweating like a pig trying not to screw up. And I did screw up a few times, even having to stop playing because i lost track of the chart. Doesn't happen anymore, I'm happy to say. Every guitar player should try playing in a big band/jazz band once. You realize how much you don't know. I was the same way. I used to have to stare at the chart but then I couldn't look at my hands...which was a problem since barely knew how to play any of the chords on the charts. Now it's no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 I don't seem to get lost on the music to which I listen. I'm sure there's plenty of keys and music that would have me feeling out of sorts though. Perhaps, in my case, ignorance is bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted April 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 Country progressions are (most of the time) I, IV, V. Nothing unusual about that. G major is a popular key, true. But if you don't like country progressions, it's probably the scales, not the key itself. Country leads are usually built on the major pentatonic scales, whereas rock/blues makes more use of the minor pentatonic/blues scales, though obviously not always. I'm guessing that it's the intervals you aren't liking, not necessarily the key. I mean, why hate G major and love A major? Are major diatonic scales OK for you? (do you also play piano?) Is it just the intervals of the major pentatonics?...The keys that make me think a little, on guitar, is Eb major or minor. its not really i cannot play if that key.. its that i dont like it.. i mean some tunes, a number of Bob dylans.. are great and i really like those.. but its just a key of G is just a bit too happy? im not sure that make sense.. but then again some Gospel kinda things in G are great fun to play.. awell.. perhaps is a silly post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 oddly enough, E (major or minor) pisses me off on guitar. it all just comes out so damn boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faberbz Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 its not really i cannot play if that key.. its that i dont like it.. i mean some tunes, a number of Bob dylans.. are great and i really like those.. but its just a key of G is just a bit too happy? im not sure that make sense.. but then again some Gospel kinda things in G are great fun to play..awell.. perhaps is a silly post.. No, not silly. We all have our own ear, right? I was just wondering cuz you brought up country. To a lot of people used to blues-based rock, country does sound different, and there is more to it than just the tele twang or whatever. I kind of think that the E, A, B7 (or E7, A7, B7) progression played a certain way just sounds so cliched, so tired. But I have nothing against the key of E major in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottgd Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 Florida Keys, just too hot and humid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snowaie Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 I like A Minor and C Major. Well, A is the relative minor for C, but they go great, and are easy to play to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poolshark Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 I do like D minor. Really sad, that key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members m90guy Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 I use and abuse A minor way to much....E minor too. Really getting bored with it, but I always go there when writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MONGOOZ Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 as a form of eduction and practice i like to riff along to backing tracks and stuff.. but im finding that there are some keys that i just dont like.. those country kinda progressions.. in G for instance.. just dont vibe with the Key of G very much.. hows bout yous guys... ummm...."jesus left chicago" is in G.......get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members richey888 Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 I do like D minor. Really sad, that key. You hear it and people begin to weep instantly....simple lines intertwining. I dislike Bb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwire Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 There are no bad keys. Just bad excuses not to play in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 What are these keys you speak of? Isn't everything in G or A???? Im only kidding mainly because i have zero knowledge on what key a song or solo is in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 What are these keys you speak of?Isn't everything in G or A????Im only kidding mainly because i have zero knowledge on what key a song or solo is in you can still be in my band because we know less than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mockchoi Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 You hear it and people begin to weep instantly....simple lines intertwining. It's called 'Lick my Love Pump'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metalheadUK Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 Anything that isn't "E". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey_Features Posted April 26, 2010 Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 Im a big fan of open strings mid solo so I prefer certain keys but after doing a show full of show tunes, no key scares me any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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