Members geddyentwistle Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 they were useful until ozzie's guitarist made me hate them forever the guy for reo speedwagon used them the best, imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kulardenu Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Who did them first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IamBurnout Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Chicks dig 'em, so they must be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ExiledCrow Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Chicks dig 'em, so they must be good. See, THAT is always a good approach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vaguelee Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Billy Gibbons used them tastefully?What?Blues lick squeal squeal blues lick squeal....If you don't like metal, ok, but don't go around defending Billy G and trashing ZW. They are both guilty as sin.As am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pvwolfgang5150 Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I like them ocassionlly, although, the way Zakk Wylde does them is absoloutely rediculous, excessive, and unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Who did them first? I think Roy Buchanan was the first to use one in a recorded solo. Not sure of the details and don't have enough time to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted May 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think Roy Buchanan was the first to use one in a recorded solo. Not sure of the details and don't have enough time to check. Thats one cat you never seem to hear of any more.. RIP roy.. [YOUTUBE]Wp4BlGXwSew[/YOUTUBE] enjoy it folks... to other cats playing with him... name em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeFender Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I have it on good authority that this guy was a squeelie machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 when used VERY sparingly and with taste, can be quite nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottgd Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 enjoy it folks... to other cats playing with him... name em... Albert King - Lonnie Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Selsaral Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I can't do them, so I want to learn how just for educational purposes. But I don't really enjoy hearing them, except for very occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AndrewGG Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 Albert King - Lonnie Mack? Albert Collins, Lonnie Mack, Roy Buchanan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drstone Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 pinch harmonics are as relevant a technique as vibrato, whammy bar gymnastics, or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermph Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 It is a dated sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weiner_Bomb Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 depends on the song. if it's a Black Label Society song, then its obnoxious. If pinches are used in a more crafty execution (i can't really think of any examples atm) then yes, I can dig 'em. Especially if they are used in a slower/moderate tempo in I guess, a flat key. gives it a depth of haunting melancholy rather than 'hey, look how badass my guitar-playing is' vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I agree that when used sparingly they can add a cool kind of exclamation point in a solo. They can also lend a feel of desperation to a note. Zack Wylde revolves his whole technique around them, which can get old quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Selbstmord Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I use harmonic and different types of dynamics in my playing. I don't do pinch harmonics, though. I tend to tune a little lower, so most of the time they're pretty hard to come by, and don't really complement the style of music I play. I don't care much for people using them in music, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnykap Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 It is a dated sound. So is distortion, overdrive, echo, whammy bar dives..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members meelosh123 Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I like them when they're not on the beat, and not repetitive. I also like them when you're playing a riff with a lot of delay, and you gradually turn it into a completely pinch harmonic version of said riff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mcfontio Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 So is distortion, overdrive, echo, whammy bar dives..... It's all dated, sweeps, runs, bends - {censored}, guitar solos at all are dated. Water or oxygen will kill you with enough exposure. FWIW, they don't have to have the squeal sound. That's simply a pinch harmonic with way too much harmonic. Even the slightest touch will change the tone - clean tones can work well with them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Engl Kramer Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 I agree in general. For me its like solos in general. Most make me cringe but occasionally a nice bit of lead guitar makes the old neck hairs stand up. Even though I'm Metal, I hate Metal solos almost entirely - that wanky divebar bollocks is guilty of making a few techniques become 'bad taste for all'- including artificial harmonics. I really love the way Alex Lifeson does it though:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnykap Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 {censored}, guitar solos at all are dated. :rolleyes. You almost never hear solos in music today, certainly not on radio stuff. I hate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted May 5, 2010 Members Share Posted May 5, 2010 or are they just dated silly padding for a solo and pyro... i dont really like them at all.. do you? I used too like the pinch harmonic/squeal trick a lot. However some pro guitarists Constant use of the effect has totally turned it from an accent too a Hutch imo. Zakk is the most Horrid offender of this misuse imo and is why most folks Hate the idea of pinch. When you play a squeal every 4 - 6 bars in every song for the past 20 years it gets old and tired quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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