Members 98 les paul Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Other than the fact that they have bolt-on necks, how are they different from, say, a custom 24? Does the fact that the necks are bolt-on seen to reduce sustain at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 The CE necks are maple and the CU necks are mahogany. The CE bolt in neck is the same joint as the CU but uses screws instead of glue.Depending on the year of the CE the body woods changed.Alder body- 1988Alder w/ maple top - 1989-1994Mahogany w/ maple top- 1995- presentAll mahogany- 1995- 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogsinotpalc Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 The CE necks are maple and the CU necks are mahogany. The CE bolt in neck is the same joint as the CU but uses screws instead of glue.Depending on the year of the CE the body woods changed.Alder body- 1988Alder w/ maple top - 1989-1994Mahogany w/ maple top- 1995- presentAll mahogany- 1995- 2000 While not a huge seller the CE was available with an alder body w/o the Map Top until 1994. A couple of years ago they also reissued the alder bodied version (sans Map Top), but it only lasted about year before they pulled it again. Great guitars. Love my '94 CE-22 Cherry sunburst map top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fulcrumpoint Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I can tell you that I played my CE22 way more than I did my CU24. Then I sold both....I miss my CE. Wish I could get that one back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dman11 Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I've got a '93 CE24 alder and maple. Love it for just about everything. biggest difference I've heard is that they have a stronger more detailed/articulate attack to the notes but the tones are similar to a CU24 since they share the same pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I used to own a CE24 and it was incredible. I prefer bolt ons anyway so the choice was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 While not a huge seller the CE was available with an alder body w/o the Map Top until 1994. Didn't know that, thanks. I've owned 5 CE24's. One was all mahogany (one pc. body), one was alder/maple, and 3 were mahogany/maple (including the own I have now). The best sounding of all of them was a 1996 mahogany/maple. It was pretty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 98 les paul Posted May 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Are there any differences in the amount of sustain between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Are there any differences in the amount of sustain between the two? I don't think so. A CE or a CU will sustain as long as you need.How long do you need to hold one note? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 98 les paul Posted May 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I don't think so. A CE or a CU will sustain as long as you need. How long do you need to hold one note? Cool....well, my band wrote a song that requires a 3 minute sustaining single note.....juuuuuuust kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Cool....well, my band wrote a song that requires a 3 minute sustaining single note.....juuuuuuust kidding Mod it with this and you can have 30 minuets sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 98 les paul Posted May 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Or, I could whip out the ol' Ebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Decent, well made guitars. Easy to play, stay in tune well, good workmanship. I doubt there's a significant difference, if any, between the bolts and set necks. I had a CE-22 and a McCarty and sold both. On paper, they were both great guitars, but I couldn't really get excited about either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I just won this one on Ebay last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 98 les paul Posted May 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I just won this one on Ebay last night! Nice! That thing looks gorgeous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Nice! That thing looks gorgeous! Thanks, hope it plays as well as it looks. It's a 1997 CE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Decent, well made guitars. Easy to play, stay in tune well, good workmanship. I doubt there's a significant difference, if any, between the bolts and set necks. I had a CE-22 and a McCarty and sold both. On paper, they were both great guitars, but I couldn't really get excited about either of them. How do they do with dive bombs? Can you go down an octave? How well does it stay in tune with minor whammy abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 How do they do with dive bombs? Can you go down an octave? How well does it stay in tune with minor whammy abuse? I just checked with my CE and it will dive the low E an octave. If it's set up well, it will stay in tune damn near perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 Are there any differences in the amount of sustain between the two? If any solidbody electric guitar doesn't sustain long enough for any practical use, then there is something wrong with it. As for as neck joints affecting sustain, that's all hogwash anyway. I enjoyed my CE24. '93 Maple/Alder (I like the snap of the bright alder better but the mahogany/maple ones are cloeer to CU in tone). Semi-regret selling it (but my '79 Start long displaced it as my #2, so off it went). Two things I thought about it were I hated the PU's (HFS/Bass), they were harsh through vintage style amps (but stayed tight in high gain situations) and I didn't like the placement of the neck PU because of the 24 fret neck. If I ever replaced my CE, it'll be a CE22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 I just checked with my CE and it will dive the low E an octave.If it's set up well, it will stay in tune damn near perfect. Sweet! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 How do they do with dive bombs? Can you go down an octave? How well does it stay in tune with minor whammy abuse? You can go down an octave and they stay in tune reasonably well. Minor abuse is okay and if you bomb you have a reasonable chance of coming back in tune, but it isn't guaranteed. The only whammy I've used that's 100% reliable is a Floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 11, 2010 Members Share Posted May 11, 2010 You can go down an octave and they stay in tune reasonably well. Minor abuse is okay and if you bomb you have a reasonable chance of coming back in tune, but it isn't guaranteed. The only whammy I've used that's 100% reliable is a Floyd. Oh yeah, nothing compares to a Floyd as far as tuning stability... also nothing compares to a Floyd when it comes to frustration with getting it set up right, having to unclamp, tune and reclamp during a gig when your guitar warms up etc... I know unclamping isn't a big deal but it annoys me to have to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johansolo Posted May 12, 2010 Members Share Posted May 12, 2010 i have a 1990 alder body w/maple top CE24 with trem plain jane black...moons...non of the fancy stuff. love it and will never part with it. dont really like ceramic pickups so the HFS was out of there. didnt mind hte hfs in the mahagony bodied CU24s, but i dont like finished necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted May 12, 2010 Members Share Posted May 12, 2010 Oh yeah, nothing compares to a Floyd as far as tuning stability... also nothing compares to a Floyd when it comes to frustration with getting it set up right, having to unclamp, tune and reclamp during a gig when your guitar warms up etc... I know unclamping isn't a big deal but it annoys me to have to do so. I don't get the frustration people have with Floyds. You shouldn't need to unclamp to tune during a gig. Tuning takes a little longer, but once you're there you don't have to think about it again all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scolfax Posted May 12, 2010 Members Share Posted May 12, 2010 I don't get the frustration people have with Floyds. You shouldn't need to unclamp to tune during a gig. Tuning takes a little longer, but once you're there you don't have to think about it again all night. +1. Or all month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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