Members Faber Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Is there a support group I can join Last night we shared a gig with another band and I had to play through that band's amp - a deluxe reverb. I see the attraction of the sound - it's clear and bright and snappy, but for my lking it's entirely entirely too nice. I like the thicker, more muscular clean sound of a strat through a marshall, a Vox or a Matchless. A Deluxe make me sound like freakin Hank Marvin all night, and that's just not a place I like to park. Edit to add: If I had know in advance what amp I'd get I would have brought my semi. I do love the sound of a good semi through a fender amp. But the clarity of a strat + blackface = too much of a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enuenu Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 What about a Mesa DR? I am thinking of getting a Strat to get some completely new tones, ground that my Gibson Explorer cannot cover. It's another amp or another guitar, I can't afford both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I have to agree. I prefer the British style amps too. I've been liking some of the demos I've seen of the new Blackstar combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brianeharmonjr Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I like a strat into just about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I like a strat into just about anything. I don't particularly like a strat into many things. DRRI sounds good with a tele or with a guitar with P90s though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Its because they were voiced to be that way super clean, you could have used a boost. Humbuckers drive the input harder and sound thicker.Marshalls never really will be as clean as a fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Marshalls never really will be as clean as a fender. Not sure how many Marshalls you have actually played. My JTM-50 (60s) is like a Twin in terms of its clean sound. Ditto a Club n Country that I had years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I like that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I agree with the OP's assessment of the sound, but I like that sound. I also really, really like the sond of a Strat through a clean (or dirty) Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I started out on AC30s, took a MAJOR wrong turning in the early 80s with a Peavey Deuce and found my ultimate happiness with a Super Reverb (1969 model: silverface cosmetics but essentially a blackface circuit). It's all down to personal taste, of course (subjective as fark, yunno), but a Strat into a Super Reverb is as close to the sound I want as I can get without actually, ahem, PLAYING BETTER. This is my sound ... and I like it ... *Like it, like it, yes I do* [YOUTUBE]fp-Fy2VchYY[/YOUTUBE] Not very much like Hank Marvin, whose classic sound was a Strat into ... An AC30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foppy Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Not very much like Hank Marvin, whose classic sound was a Strat into ...An AC30. It's a beautiful sound to me. Nice playing csm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yogi_Sizzle Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Not sure how many Marshalls you have actually played. My JTM-50 (60s) is like a Twin in terms of its clean sound. Ditto a Club n Country that I had years ago. Exactly. I have a Bugera 1960 ( Marshall Plexi clone) and thing is super clean like a twin up until you get past like 6, and at 6 it is ear splitting loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brother_Budro Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 exactly why i sold my deluxe reverbliking my 18watt marshall soo much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orange Jackson Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I agree, Fender puts a dollop of that 'Syrupy Fender sound' on just about all of their amps. You can never get away from it. It is a clean tone, and can be quite enjoyable, but it is not really clean. Clean is clean, without all the Fender syrup tone effect added on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Not very much like Hank Marvin, whose classic sound was a Strat into ...An AC30. great playing and tone. good stuff. fwiw, i love the blackface model on the microcube -strat/tele/lp all sound good thru it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scott Abene Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I like an amp that can sound like a swarm of angry killer bees when it needs to... A deluxe reverb just can't do that. However, if I am tracking in the studio and need to put down a clean track the amp is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I like an amp that can sound like a swarm of angry killer bees when it needs to... A deluxe reverb just can't do that. However, if I am tracking in the studio and need to put down a clean track the amp is great you can get the killer bee sound w/a pedal, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 BG76. I own 3 Marshalls 1 69 Plexi Super100 tremolo and 2 JMP 50 watts their clean still has a edge to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 thats a classic sound. I think what you need is a Tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted May 30, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 And a fine sound it is - All I can say is that I couldn't get anything remotely like that out of the deluxe last night. The few times I've been ablo to turn up a Super I've played semis so I have no hands on experience with them and strats, but would you say that they are inherently fuller sounding than a deluxe, or is it all user ineptitute on my part? I also like that Marvin/knopler sound btw, just not when I use it . i didn't know that Marvin used AC30s. Whatever he used he sounded fantastic. Not very much like Hank Marvin, whose classic sound was a Strat into ... An AC30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scott Abene Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 you can get the killer bee sound w/a pedal, no? Yes... but I am one of those people that do not like stomp boxes for no particular reason. I really like the OD from the amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swampgfox Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I have a DRRI and a Strat, I HATE the bridge pickup with the DRRI especially without any distortion or overdrive. It's the brightest ear piercing sound ever. I use a ZVEX Box of Rock which is supposed to sound like a jtm 45 fattens up the DRRI great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 And a fine sound it is - All I can say is that I couldn't get anything remotely like that out of the deluxe last night. The few times I've been ablo to turn up a Super I've played semis so I have no hands on experience with them and strats, but would you say that they are inherently fuller sounding than a deluxe, or is it all user ineptitute on my part? I also like that Marvin/knopler sound btw, just not when I use it . i didn't know that Marvin used AC30s. Whatever he used he sounded fantastic. Ta for the kind words ... I don't know much about the DRRI, never having used one, but the Super Reverb is 40w and 4x10, which means it's both more powerful than the DRRI and has a greater sound dispersion ... I run mine with the tone controls all starting out at 12 o'clock, and then tweaked to suit the room, with volume starting out at 4 or 5. The only pedals I use are a wah (obviously not in use for that song) and a mains-powered, tube-driven Blackstar HT-Boost just to kick the amp harder for solos rather than to colour the sound. Not all Fender black/silverface amps are created equal -- the classic 85w '65-style Twin was designed to deliver a clean tone at skull-crushing volume, whereas the lower-powered Super and Deluxe were designed for gentler use. Remember, the older tweed amps were thicker, richer and throatier, and the first Marshalls were based on those Fender tweed circuits -- Pete Townshend lugged a Bassman head into Jim Marshall's shop and said, 'I want THIS, only ten times as loud.' To me, the Vox tone is somewhere between a tweed and a 'face' (clean it chimes; cranked it growls), and Vox was what all the early-60s British bands (Shadows, Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, Animals, Kinks etc) used until Marshalls came along, because imported Fenders were wicked expensive. The exception was The Who: Townshend used Fender heads with Marshall cabs. Final word: it's always a prob using an unfamiliar amp unless there's someone there who's familiar with it to dial in just the tone you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members prolog Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 Not very much like Hank Marvin, whose classic sound was a Strat into ...An AC30. I can't get tired of this video. Great playing, csm. I love "Hideaway". I don't know if I've found my own voice, yet. Right now I know I like Strats and semis, and play through a C30. It growls nicely when turned up. One day, I'd like to get a Bassman (love that sound!), or maybe a DRRI for the classic Fender sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cymro#1 Posted May 30, 2010 Members Share Posted May 30, 2010 I have a DeVille 4x10 which at 60 watts I find is just too loud for any kind of hall. I am now seriously considering changing to a British amp which I find warmer. An AC 30 would be great or a small Marshall combo. Heard great things about Blackstar too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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