Members scott944 Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 How are you using the unit? I auditioned an RP 500 through headphones, where it sounded fantastic, but plugged into my Blues Jr it sounds, well, less fantastic. The prevailing opinion at TGP is that they sound best routed into the power amp "in" of an effects loop (which the BJ lacks) or dedicated modeling amp (ie: Tech 21 Power Engine or an Atomic Reactor). I don't play out or record, so that's a non-issue - I just want a good sound at living room volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 How are you using the unit? I auditioned an RP 500 through headphones, where it sounded fantastic, but plugged into my Blues Jr it sounds, well, less fantastic. The prevailing opinion at TGP is that they sound best routed into the power amp "in" of an effects loop (which the BJ lacks) or dedicated modeling amp (ie: Tech 21 Power Engine or an Atomic Reactor). I don't play out or record, so that's a non-issue - I just want a good sound at living room volume. Did you play with the amp/mixer toggle on the back of the unit? I run an RP155 straight into the front of my amps and I'm happy with the few patches that I normally use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scott944 Posted June 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yes, I've tried both and settled on the "amp" setting (though I've read that some prefer the "mixer" setting even when plugging into an amp front end). My primary beef is a "digital-ness" on the front end of the note on many, but not all, of the high gain models, even with the gain turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_dave_c Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 Decent direct device, horrible pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yes, I've tried both and settled on the "amp" setting (though I've read that some prefer the "mixer" setting even when plugging into an amp front end). My primary beef is a "digital-ness" on the front end of the note on many, but not all, of the high gain models, even with the gain turned down. What I did to create what I think are really nice patches is use the X-Edit software. It takes some time, but I think it's worth it. Find a patch that's 'close' and then using X-Edit play with cabs, stomp boxes, amps, levels etc. There are a ton of tweaks you can make, but like I said, it takes some time. Amp should be neutrally eq'd. Edit: You could also d/l and try others patches. http://www.digitech.com/soundcomm/guitar_list_patches.asp?productid=240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Convert Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 Yes, I've tried both and settled on the "amp" setting (though I've read that some prefer the "mixer" setting even when plugging into an amp front end). My primary beef is a "digital-ness" on the front end of the note on many, but not all, of the high gain models, even with the gain turned down. Seems odd you hear digital artifacts through the amp and not the headphones--you think the clarity of headphones would accentuate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lp_junkie Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 The way I use the RP 1000, is in the front of my Marshall or Egnater heads. I set the head with flat EQ and for a clean tone, then set the RP presets up to where it sounds right through the cabinets. Set the output to Amp, you really have to play with the internal "amp" eq and the eq "pedal" settings, don't use the distortion boxes in it, just adjust the amp gain settings and play around with the different cabinet sims that are in it. Headphones always make things different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted June 9, 2010 Members Share Posted June 9, 2010 I have the RP1000 and I also run it in front of my amps. I only use the amp modeling for a couple of things (the 5150 and JCM 800), and use it as a multi-effects unit the rest of the time. I have run it using the four cable method a couple of times and it sounded good. If you run it through a Blues Jr. you are better off just using the effects. The point at which the BJ starts to break up just doesn't go well with the RP units (or my POD XT Live, either). I have found they really do not work with tube amps (running into the front) until you start getting something with some decent headroom. I have run them in front of amps from 30 to 120 watts and they sound fine. Through my 15 watt Super Champ XD, not so much. Also consider the speaker. It may not be efficient enough to do what you are wanting done. I like having all my stuff in one place and being able to add pedals as I need them. You might find the sweet spot for it to work with the BJ, just give it time. You have to tweak a little to get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minnie The Moocher Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 Fronting the amp = cabinet simulations OFF ! or you're playing a cabinet simulation thru another guitar speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saturn Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 I run my RP1000 using the 4 cable method into a tube amp. I don't use any cab models I turn that off on all patches. Most of my patches are just effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cbh5150 Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 What Minnie said, but one thing I have found useful: I have a 355, and what I have done so far is start with a "bypass" patch of everything turned off. Then from there, I will add an effect, with a fairly subtle setting. Then add an AMP (leave the cab sims off) model of CLEAN for the "A" patch, which does not color the sound. Then I might select an amp with some gain for the "B" patch to add a little dirt... My philosophy is as far as multieffects units go: don't do too much at once with the same patch - the more you add, the more artificial and muddy it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scott944 Posted June 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 Not using any cab sims. Not using any presets - built all my patches from scratch with generally no effects except for reverb. Using the amp with tone controls at neutral and set dead clean at living room volume (a little louder than bedroom volume). Although I've tweaked a good bit, perhaps another session is in order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gitmo Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 How are you using the unit? RP255 w/USB into P.C., X-Edit to tweak the sound, stereo out into 2 Yamaha powered monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 I also agree on turning off the cab sims. I left that out of my other post, but it is most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Squier Fat Telecaster Posted June 10, 2010 Members Share Posted June 10, 2010 RP155 into compuer monitors at computer desk for recording. EV Sonic XS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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