Gibson vs Lookalikes

[ido1957]

How does the prestige factor and QC count for your choice.

 

I own a Les Paul.....

 

I own a Gibson Les Paul....

 

I paid $295 for my >NoName

 

I paid $2400 for my Gibson Les Paul

 

The resale value of my >NoName

 

The resale value on my 59 Les Paul is $250,000

 

The G string on my >NoName

 

My Gibson Les Paul stays in tune for the whole set.

[slvrsrpnt]

my USA Dean V plays, sounds, and looks better than my Gibson V

[23miles]

Oh, please....

[RaVenCAD]

How does the prestige factor and QC count for your choice. I own a Les Paul..... I own a Gibson Les Paul.... I paid $295 for my >NoName I paid $2400 for my Gibson Les Paul The resale value of my >NoName The resale value on my 59 Les Paul is $250,000 The G string on my >NoName My Gibson Les Paul stays in tune for the whole set.

 

 

I've highlighted the most important reason your lookalike is inferior and always will be...

[vintage clubber]

How does the prestige factor and QC count for your choice. I own a Les Paul..... I own a Gibson Les Paul.... I paid $295 for my >NoName I paid $2400 for my Gibson Les Paul The resale value of my >NoName The resale value on my 59 Les Paul is $250,000 The G string on my >NoName My Gibson Les Paul stays in tune for the whole set.

I have four "No Names" - a Nelsonic, an Eleca, and two Epiphones. I have replaced the nuts on all of them so they stay in tune just fine...

[lp_junkie]

I play Gibsons, Orvilles (built under Gibson license in Japan) and the ocassional Epiphone.

I look at each guitar individually, there is a lot of firewood out there with the Gibson name on it, so you still have to evaluate the guitar itself.

Before I have them setup, the G string goes out of tune on every Gibson I've had since 1977, I call it the Gibson curse. Every guitar based off that design has the same problem, poorly cut nuts and cheap nut material.

The Orville has beat every Gibson I have ever touched in terms of construction, fit and finish, and overall playability. I will pick it up 9 times out of 10, and it's my #1 stage and studio guitar.

[Alex W]

I would take a Bacchus or a Navigator over any Gibson any day of the week.

[scuzzo]

its just a guitar.. and for that price.. i sure hope to hell it sounds many thousands of dollars better then some knock off... i stand unconvinced..

untill i can pickup a studio and just be knocked out by how much better it sounds then my silly Agile.. i will just keep my silly cheap guitars.. and let other go about the work of examining ever nuance of some bits of wire and wood..

 

[Carbohydrates]

I've highlighted the most important reason your lookalike is inferior and always will be...

 

Ah yes, Gibsons are known for their outstanding tuning stability

[IamBurnout]

A new nut is $10, a set-up is $50.

 

For $60, your silly guitar will stay in tune.

[normh]

My no name LP has stayed in tune for the last two months despite daily play.

First thing I did was replace the plastic nut with a bone nut and that before most of the shipping wrap was off.

I have seen enough guitars through my hands that I've come to fully understand that every manufacturer makes guitars that would not even make decent firewood.

Here are the main contributors to a guitar not staying in tune:
Poor nut;
poor tuners;
poor setup;
incorrectly wound string on tuner;
whammy bars;
snobishness.

Value? Are you kidding, I buy my guitars to play. I do not buy them to sell or pawn. You loose money everytime. Besides, in a 1000 years your expensive piece will be dust.

Quality. Sorry. Most guitars today are CNC'd. Quality is most often not an issue. Where it is, if you are doing your job as a discerning consumer and musician, you will pass that instrument up. Poor Quality has the habit of leaving the market place, as do manufacturers who give better quality than the original manufacturer because the original manufacturer will either sue the firm to death or buy them out.

[CoqBelliqueux]

My Prestige lookalike costs 640$ on eBay, but I got it in a trade for a Korean Telecaster. It stays in tune most of the time, I think, like any guitar without a locking nut/tuner/etc...

 

What's the question, really?

[Spike Li]

[john_p_t]

I've highlighted the most important reason your lookalike is inferior and always will be...

 

 

Hang on - the classic Les Paul design is notorious for having tuning stability issues. Nothing that can't be overcome if you know what you're doing, but this is emphatically not its strong point.

[w00dsy]

tone is in the country of origin

[AshboneWish]

The resale value on my 59 Les Paul is $250,000

 

Pics???

[King Loudness]

I'm a snob, no point denying it. That said, I don't care for Gibson as a company, or many of their other models beyond the Les Paul, but if I want an LP, Gibson's the way I'll go.

[ΨWindingΨ]

Before I have them setup, the G string goes out of tune on every Gibson I've had since 1977, I call it the Gibson curse. Every guitar based off that design has the same problem, poorly cut nuts and cheap nut material.

 

 

Use graphic or another similar lubricant when changing strings at the nut. Also make sure the slots are cut properly and there's not a binding spot. The nut design and string angle on a Les Paul can be problematic. I have no such problem with my Lester. In fact I hardly have to tune it once tuned.

[bluesnapper]

I guess there's something about the legend of a company that sucks me in... Gibson and Fender are obviously the big names for electrics and all my favourite guitar parts were recorded on them.

Having said that, I'm completely happy with my Musicman bass and I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on a G&L - I guess that's because they tag on to the Fender history nicely. Maybe an Orville would be kinda sweet too...

In twenty years, maybe PRS will acquire the same legendary status, but I'm just not feeling it yet...

[Surrealistic]

How does the prestige factor and QC count for your choice. I own a Les Paul..... I own a Gibson Les Paul.... I paid $295 for my >NoName I paid $2400 for my Gibson Les Paul The resale value of my >NoName The resale value on my 59 Les Paul is $250,000 The G string on my >NoName My Gibson Les Paul stays in tune for the whole set.

 

 

The implication that a Gibson is likely to increase in value by a factor of 100 is (except in a very small number of cases) ridiculous. The reality is that, like every other guitar, it will be worth less than you paid for it the minute you pick it up and will most likely at best remain at that decreased value.

 

BTW - I'd be very happy to have a nice Gibson, and I probably will buy one someday.

[stormin1155]

I read through this entire thread, hoping I might gain at least a tiny bit of wisdom or fresh insight regarding the debate between Gibson vs. NoName. ...........nope....nothing here.

[dragoro]

I play Gibsons, Orvilles (built under Gibson license in Japan) and the ocassional Epiphone. I look at each guitar individually, there is a lot of firewood out there with the Gibson name on it, so you still have to evaluate the guitar itself. Before I have them setup, the G string goes out of tune on every Gibson I've had since 1977, I call it the Gibson curse. Every guitar based off that design has the same problem, poorly cut nuts and cheap nut material. The Orville has beat every Gibson I have ever touched in terms of construction, fit and finish, and overall playability. I will pick it up 9 times out of 10, and it's my #1 stage and studio guitar.

 

 

 

Thats funny, how come I dont have that problem?

[dragoro]

I read through this entire thread, hoping I might gain at least a tiny bit of wisdom or fresh insight regarding the debate between Gibson vs. NoName. ...........nope....nothing here.

 

 

Yeah, agreed. Not one bit of truth.

[ΨWindingΨ]

I read through this entire thread, hoping I might gain at least a tiny bit of wisdom or fresh insight regarding the debate between Gibson vs. NoName. ...........nope....nothing here.

 

 

When talking no-names or Gibson you need to keep in mind there are great no-names and great Gibson's. And conversely there are crap in both worlds too.

 

You want a great Gibson get a Historic reissue, want a great no-name grab an Aviator or early Tokia high end model or a custom made knock off which will cost you in the tens of thousands.

[dragoro]

When talking no-names or Gibson you need to keep in mind there are great no-names and great Gibson's. And conversely there are crap in both worlds too. You want a great Gibson get a Historic reissue, want a great no-name grab an Aviator or early Tokia high end model or a custom made knock off which will cost you in the tens of thousands.

 

 

nonsense